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post #106 of 185
1/11/11 at 12:38pm
Lol looks like the OP just made different accounts. Op is a dumbass, read his other posts. I dont know how people like this exist.
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post #107 of 185
1/11/11 at 1:19pm
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I would hate to be around either of you as your breaths (?) must definitely smell worse than my dog's bum.

I had to chew gun or chew in mint leaves. I keep a tooth brush at work and thought I would be okay, but my wife gave me the heads up that I had off-rank smelling breath. AFter that it was lots and lots of gum.
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post #108 of 185
1/11/11 at 1:35pm
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I had to chew gun or chew in mint leaves. I keep a tooth brush at work and thought I would be okay, but my wife gave me the heads up that I had off-rank smelling breath. AFter that it was lots and lots of gum.

The loss of energy couldn't even allow you to pull back the trigger, eh?
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post #109 of 185
1/11/11 at 2:06pm
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fail troll is fail

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post #110 of 185
1/11/11 at 2:20pm
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I am transitioning out of my fast with a diet very similar to what you are describing, with a few exceptions. After 1 week of fruits and vegetables I introduced some lean protein in the form of small fish (brisling, kippers). What is your reasoning for feeding patients rice and lentils? Both of which are inflammatory, devoid of nutrients, packed with lectins and phytates, and provide the body with nothing but a cheap source calories. If for the purpose of protein, why not clean sources of animal protein?

Lentils are one of the healthiest foods on the planet. Aside from a high phytate concentration, which can be mitigated by an overnight soak in water, green lentils contain very high protein content, including all essential amino acids, a high dietary fiber content, and are rich in minerals such as iron.

Where do you even get your health and nutrition information anyway? Jenny McCarthy?
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post #111 of 185
1/11/11 at 2:25pm
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there are a group of people in india that practice this, but they are highly religious, highly dedicated and make this their lives.
they look like concentration camp prisoners.

They are also largely charlatans. They eat and drink, and people find such inspiration from their lies, they help them cheat thinking it's for the greater good.

India is quite something else--the different yogi's will actually advertise on billboards like companies do elsewhere in the world, and a lot of people will seek advice from them on every trivial decision.

Kinda like the internet...
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post #112 of 185
1/11/11 at 3:11pm
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Lentils are one of the healthiest foods on the planet. Aside from a high phytate concentration, which can be mitigated by an overnight soak in water, green lentils contain very high protein content, including all essential amino acids, a high dietary fiber content, and are rich in minerals such as iron.

Where do you even get your health and nutrition information anyway? Jenny McCarthy?

I was referring particularly to the grains. Although, the fact that legumes, such as lentils, need to be altered for human consumption through cooking, soaking, or fermenting, should be your best clue to avoid or strictly minimize their consumption(all truly safe fruits and vegetables can be eaten either raw or cooked). Most legumes in their mature state are non-digestible and/or toxic to most mammals, when eaten even in moderate quantities. Even while offering a good source of protein, fiber, potassium, and antioxidants, they also provide a significant level of carbohydrate and increase the overall insulin load of your diet. While not necessarily being the worst food you could eat, lentils are certainly not one of the healthiest foods on the planet, as you describe.

I get my health and nutrition information by reading books.
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post #113 of 185
1/11/11 at 3:32pm
Poison is one of the healthiest foods on the planet. Aside from a high poison concentration, which can be mitigated by an overnight soak in water. Green poison contains a very high protein content, including all essential amino acids, a high dietary fiber content, and is rich in minerals such as iron.
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post #114 of 185
1/11/11 at 3:44pm
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Just finished a 20 day water fast
holyshit, did you quit your job? how did you get any energy? besides meth
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post #115 of 185
1/11/11 at 3:50pm
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Originally Posted by mm84321 View Post
I was referring particularly to the grains. Although, the fact that legumes, such as lentils, need to be altered for human consumption through cooking, soaking, or fermenting, should be your best clue to avoid or strictly minimize their consumption(all truly safe fruits and vegetables can be eaten either raw or cooked). Most legumes in their mature state are non-digestible and/or toxic to most mammals, when eaten even in moderate quantities. Even while offering a good source of protein, fiber, potassium, and antioxidants, they also provide a significant level of carbohydrate and increase the overall insulin load of your diet. While not necessarily being the worst food you could eat, lentils are certainly not one of the healthiest foods on the planet, as you describe. I get my health and nutrition information by reading books.
Lentils should be cooked--or "altered"; same with chicken. Is chicken unhealthy? No. Grapes are toxic to dogs, should people not eat them because they are toxic to some mammals? No. Your arguments all stem from generalized logic fallacies that have no baseline in either reason or science. Legumes used for food are not toxic to most mammals, and certainly not humans, as they have long provided the dietary backbone for large portions of the human race for thousands of years. There are legumes that are toxic in large quantities, but these are not frequently or purposefully consumed by humans. It's like saying people shouldn't eat mushrooms in your grocery store, because a few species that you can't even find in a store are toxic. The bulk of the carbohydrates in lentils come from fiber (over 50%), which is largely beneficial to the bacteria in your gut, not you (i.e., no net caloric value). Furthermore, carbohydrates are not inherently evil, and no true nutritionist will tell you that they are--it's the over-consumption of them, largely in the form of added sugars, which they become harmful in your diet. So, once again, what books are you reading? Not to be insulting, but it sounds like you are getting some really piss-poor advice and information from somewhere (if you aren't trolling), and really my only gripe is that too often pseudoscience and other quackery gets passed off as legitimate advice to people too gullible and ignorant to know the difference.
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post #116 of 185
1/11/11 at 4:34pm
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Lentils should be cooked--or "altered"; same with chicken. Is chicken unhealthy? No. Grapes are toxic to dogs, should people not eat them because they are toxic to some mammals? No. Your arguments all stem from generalized logic fallacies that have no baseline in either reason or science. Legumes used for food are not toxic to most mammals, and certainly not humans, as they have long provided the dietary backbone for large portions of the human race for thousands of years. There are legumes that are toxic in large quantities, but these are not frequently or purposefully consumed by humans. It's like saying people shouldn't eat mushrooms in your grocery store, because a few species that you can't even find in a store are toxic. The bulk of the carbohydrates in lentils come from fiber (over 50%), which is largely beneficial to the bacteria in your gut, not you (i.e., no net caloric value). Furthermore, carbohydrates are not inherently evil, and no true nutritionist will tell you that they are--it's the over-consumption of them, largely in the form of added sugars, which they become harmful in your diet. So, once again, what books are you reading? Not to be insulting, but it sounds like you are getting some really piss-poor advice and information from somewhere (if you aren't trolling), and really my only gripe is that too often pseudoscience and other quackery gets passed off as legitimate advice to people too gullible and ignorant to know the difference.
Chicken can be consumed raw. Obviously, human digestive systems differ from that of dogs. Just because they have provided the backbone of the human diet for thousands of years does not mean that they are inherently healthy. On an evolutionary scale, thousands of years is a rather short period of time. The advent of agriculture, roughly 10,000 years ago, saw a huge shift in the human diet from mostly plants and vegetables to grains. This shift paralleled a reduction in average human life span as well as body and brain size, increases in infant mortality and infectious diseases, and the occurrence of previously unknown conditions such as osteoporosis, bone mineral disorders, and malnutrition. With advancement in modern medicine, we now can live long enough to enjoy atherosclerosis, hypertension, and type 2 diabetes. Humans have simply not yet adapted to this diet. I don't believe carbohydrates are evil, as long as they are consumed with the accompanied fiber that nature paired them with, and are not processed or refined. A lot of the information I am reiterating comes from Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Dr. Jared Diamond and Richard Manning's Against the Grain Because I offer a contrary opinion I am trolling?
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post #117 of 185
1/11/11 at 4:54pm
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Just because they have provided the backbone of the human diet for thousands of years does not mean that they are inherently healthy. On an evolutionary scale, thousands of years is a rather short period of time. The advent of agriculture, roughly 10,000 years ago, saw a huge shift in the human diet from mostly plants and vegetables to grains. This shift paralleled a reduction in average human life span as well as body and brain size, increases in infant mortality and infectious diseases, and the occurrence of previously unknown conditions such as osteoporosis, bone mineral disorders, and malnutrition. With advancement in modern medicine, we now can live long enough to enjoy atherosclerosis, hypertension, and type 2 diabetes. Humans have simply not yet adapted to this diet.


A lot of the information I am reiterating comes from Guns, Germs, and Steel: The Fates of Human Societies, by Dr. Jared Diamond and Richard Manning's Against the Grain

I have read Guns, Germs and Steel, and NOWHERE in it is anything such as you have described. This is the second time I've caught you misrepresenting or outright lying about the content of a particular book.

You are a liar.

Stop it.
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post #118 of 185
1/11/11 at 5:08pm
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I am not quoting any particular passage in Guns, Germs, and Steel, so the information I am repeating off the top of my head could have easily come from another source. AlmostFullBenefits asked me what books I've read pertaining to this topic, I was simply answering his question. But you're right Harvey, my M.O. is to come onto Styleforum and lie about things that I haven't read in books.
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post #119 of 185
1/11/11 at 5:25pm
don't mind HB and his wisdumb. sheesh, what a moron!
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post #120 of 185
1/11/11 at 6:01pm
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I am not quoting any particular passage in Guns, Germs, and Steel, so the information I am repeating off the top of my head could have easily come from another source. AlmostFullBenefits asked me what books I've read pertaining to this topic, I was simply answering his question. But you're right Harvey, my M.O. is to come onto Styleforum and lie about things that I haven't read in books.
So the source of your info could be totally non-credible? FWIW, there is nothing in GG&S that can be used to back up the outrageous claims made in this thread.
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