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post #406 of 420
I have relied on my own finances since I moved out of the family home at 17, but I don't drive yet, so I guess I'll need to get used to that. I'm doing a few qualifications for IT but just vendor stuff. I just hope to have the opportunity to get enough experience in order to progress.
post #407 of 420

Alright...It's tough enough to make it without a college education. If you don't have a hs education, you're going to be royally screwed.

post #408 of 420

Mid $60s straight out of college which is actually a lot more than I expected and more than 90% of my fellow graduating classmates. I guess I got pretty lucky. I just graduated and work in IT.

post #409 of 420
Never went to college, my mom got sick my senior year of high school, so after graduation I grabbed the first job that I could make money in. Was hired by Bloomingdales in 1999 as a men's wardrobe consultant. It was a risk as I was on a $10 per hour draw, but received 6% commission. I cleared $68,000 my first year. Granted I had more to work for, internally that is. Location I worked was Tyson's Corner in McLean, VA. I was truly blessed, and have continued to hustle everyday since. I am now a government employee, and own a small mom and pop convenience store on the side. I guess for anyone thinking if/if not they should take a job based on initial salary, look long term, how quick you can move up...all in all just hustle, the money will be there.
post #410 of 420
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Never went to college, my mom got sick my senior year of high school, so after graduation I grabbed the first job that I could make money in. Was hired by Bloomingdales in 1999 as a men's wardrobe consultant. It was a risk as I was on a $10 per hour draw, but received 6% commission. I cleared $68,000 my first year. Granted I had more to work for, internally that is. Location I worked was Tyson's Corner in McLean, VA. I was truly blessed, and have continued to hustle everyday since. I am now a government employee, and own a small mom and pop convenience store on the side. I guess for anyone thinking if/if not they should take a job based on initial salary, look long term, how quick you can move up...all in all just hustle, the money will be there.

I see going to college more of a risk. I didnt get as lucky as you did straight out of high school. After I dropped out after my first semester of college, I was still struggling to earn $10/hr. I worked LONG hours and still couldnt amount near what I am making now. I wanted to start a business but couldnt afford the startup costs. 

post #411 of 420
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I see going to college more of a risk. I didnt get as lucky as you did straight out of high school. After I dropped out after my first semester of college, I was still struggling to earn $10/hr. I worked LONG hours and still couldnt amount near what I am making now. I wanted to start a business but couldnt afford the startup costs. 

I would have loved to go to college.  I initially wasn't ready to grow up, but my mom falling ill (couldn't work for almost a year), her husband taking out all the equity in their house and fleeing (she chose not to fight it), I really had no choice.  Now I am blessed to have her in my rental property, a 3-level townhouse, and that I can cover more than half the note for her, while she works the extra years she was supposed to be retired.

 

But I like reading the part you wrote "I worked LONG hours and still couldn't amount near what I am making NOW."  It's a testiment to your hard work that you are reaping the rewards.  I instill in my two children that you must WORK for what you want in life, do not expect to be given anything, just because you have an expensive education, live in a certain area, write well (something I suck at, I am very aware of, lol).  I could never have received the education I got in a classroom that I received by rolling up my sleeves and putting my nose to the grindstone. I wish more kids out of college didn't feel "entitled" to a certain salary just because they went to college. Prove your worth, first, the money will follow.

post #412 of 420
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I would have loved to go to college.  I initially wasn't ready to grow up, but my mom falling ill (couldn't work for almost a year), her husband taking out all the equity in their house and fleeing (she chose not to fight it), I really had no choice.  Now I am blessed to have her in my rental property, a 3-level townhouse, and that I can cover more than half the note for her, while she works the extra years she was supposed to be retired.

 

But I like reading the part you wrote "I worked LONG hours and still couldn't amount near what I am making NOW."  It's a testiment to your hard work that you are reaping the rewards.  I instill in my two children that you must WORK for what you want in life, do not expect to be given anything, just because you have an expensive education, live in a certain area, write well (something I suck at, I am very aware of, lol).  I could never have received the education I got in a classroom that I received by rolling up my sleeves and putting my nose to the grindstone. I wish more kids out of college didn't feel "entitled" to a certain salary just because they went to college. Prove your worth, first, the money will follow.

I hear you, but, unfortunately or fortunately, that's not the world that we live in. When you spend years committing to formal education, you expect to be compensated for it, and when companies include "BA, MBA preferred" in the job description, they have to be ready to pay for it. No one would pay $50,000-$100,000 for formal education if there weren't higher earnings and better job prospects on the other end.

 

Some people are fortunate enough to do well without a college education, but in the current and future generations, most of them will be stuck with jobs that people with higher education simply don't want. Working "long and hard" is great, but if after a decade plus of doing so, you're only making $50,000-$60,000 before taxes, then you probably made some bad moves. Working long and hard for peanuts is for people who can't do better because they didn't get a good education (or have a criminal background).

post #413 of 420
I understand, that's why I preface my comments always with being "blessed" not so much in the religious context, but more so with being FORCED to face adversity head on. And you have two choices attack or fold, I chose to attack. And I hold that feeling everyday in my back pocket, I wish more kids nowadays could experience what I went through, even of only for a fleeting moment. Some not all, I feel do not even value that piece of paper they receive after 4 years. Now I agree whole hearted with your 10 year same job comment, if you are stuck after all these years, you may have made bad decisions during that time. I believe in forward mobility in all ways, always.

Like you stated in another thread, I might just be an optimist, but I have reason.
post #414 of 420
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I understand, that's why I preface my comments always with being "blessed" not so much in the religious context, but more so with being FORCED to face adversity head on. And you have two choices attack or fold, I chose to attack. And I hold that feeling everyday in my back pocket, I wish more kids nowadays could experience what I went through, even of only for a fleeting moment. Some not all, I feel do not even value that piece of paper they receive after 4 years. Now I agree whole hearted with your 10 year same job comment, if you are stuck after all these years, you may have made bad decisions during that time. I believe in forward mobility in all ways, always.

Like you stated in another thread, I might just be an optimist, but I have reason.

+1 to the underlined part. People go to college immediately after high school because it's the "right" thing to do, so a lot of them go through those 4 years without any real direction...just because it's what they're "supposed to do." If people worked for a few years before going to college, I think that they'd get more out of it.

 

That was definitely the case for me when I went back to school for my MBA. I went to college because it was the "right" thing to do. After working for a few years post-graduation, I had a real idea of what I wanted to do, so I went back to school. If I'd had that knowledge and experience before college, who knows what would have happened?

 

The problem is that when people don't go to college right after high school, life kicks in, and they usually don't ever finish college. Working part-time jobs starting in h.s may be the sweet spot.

post #415 of 420
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+1 to the underlined part. People go to college immediately after high school because it's the "right" thing to do, so a lot of them go through those 4 years without any real direction...just because it's what they're "supposed to do." If people worked for a few years before going to college, I think that they'd get more out of it.

 

That was definitely the case for me when I went back to school for my MBA. I went to college because it was the "right" thing to do. After working for a few years post-graduation, I had a real idea of what I wanted to do, so I went back to school. If I'd had that knowledge and experience before college, who knows what would have happened?

 

The problem is that when people don't go to college right after high school, life kicks in, and they usually don't ever finish college. Working part-time jobs starting in h.s may be the sweet spot.

That's why Im glad I dropped out of college after my first semester. I hated school, got very poor grades, and had no idea or plan about what I was going to do with my degree. After being out for 3 years, I knew that I didnt want to wash cars for the rest of my life and grew more motivated to obtain a practical education. I followed that with tons of research before I declared my major.

post #416 of 420
First salaried job was just the past year. $42k (with about 40% of it supplemented with a grant.)

I am a bioinformatician and jobless now - but looking to switch into cancer research (or pure programming and make almost twice as much)
post #417 of 420
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My wife graduated from law school in the Spring of 2011. In US News & World Report the law school was ranked--I believe--15th at the time. Now it's #19. She graduated in the top 25% of her class (maybe 20%, I haven't looked at her resume in a while). Several awards (won a regional mediation contest & went to nationals) and extracurricular activities. She worked each summer, once as a judge's clerk then once at a small firm. (She did also work in between undergrad and law school as a legal secretary at one of the most prestigious law firms, FWIW). For the past year and half she has been working at a tiny law firm here, with a salary in the low 40s with some nominal bonuses added on.

The legal job market was/is really tough. It's much less than I thought she would be making, but when I look at many of her friends who graduated at the same time and were either unemployed, working for free, or pursuing further education because they couldn't get anything, I am happy that she could get any kind of job--especially considering the student loans.

We are now planning to relocate to Boston, so I'm hoping that this experience will help her land something. She has been networking like mad.

These kind of posts remind me how fortunate I am. Being in the Social Work field, I never planned on being the second coming of Donald Trump, but hoped to get fair compensation for a BA, and a College Diploma. I'm 26 and making above 55k without a ton of opportunities to move up in the organization I work for, as a have the most experienced position in terms of working directly with clients, that's not management based. I truly owe this however not to my BA, but the college diploma and work experience I got in the field since I was 20. It was helpful to go to Comm. College prior to University as I shed a year off of my BA, as well as made myself employable after finishing Uni. I've got plans to further my education, which would enable me to earn more, work in a hospital setting, but for now I'm lucky compared to many others. Lot's of people with BA's making caramel macchiatos for a living.

Though, I do believe that ultimately it will work out for your wife, and it is an asset that she has that experience and has a nack for networking. Wish her the best of luck.
post #418 of 420

I graduated undergrad with a guy, who went on to get his MSW. He's not making $55K per year, so congrat's to you.

post #419 of 420
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Though, I do believe that ultimately it will work out for your wife, and it is an asset that she has that experience and has a nack for networking. Wish her the best of luck.

 

Thanks for the well wishes. i may have given the wrong impression in my post. Just to be clear, it is already working out for my wife. True, she may not be making as much money as we want (but who is?), but I think she ended up much better off than the majority of her classmates. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just saying the point of my post was that from my first hand experience it seems that the legal market is tough--much tougher than one might think. But again, thanks for the well wishes, especially with our upcoming move.

 

Also, are you European? Your username and avatar give that suggestion. I feel like there might be significant discrepancies between the pay for social work as well as tuition costs for degrees (especially law) between the US and Europe.

post #420 of 420
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Originally Posted by The Rural Juror View Post

Thanks for the well wishes. i may have given the wrong impression in my post. Just to be clear, it is already working out for my wife. True, she may not be making as much money as we want (but who is?), but I think she ended up much better off than the majority of her classmates. I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just saying the point of my post was that from my first hand experience it seems that the legal market is tough--much tougher than one might think. But again, thanks for the well wishes, especially with our upcoming move.

Also, are you European? Your username and avatar give that suggestion. I feel like there might be significant discrepancies between the pay for social work as well as tuition costs for degrees (especially law) between the US and Europe.

I think everyone assumes that they're going to have an easier time post University at finding work, law or not. Glad she's better off than many of her peers. It's evident the law field is getting quite saturated. Quite a few discussions of this popping up about the quality of education and positions actually available for new graduates. I have a friend doing her articling now, and is fortunate to have a back up plan with her father's practice. The point of my post was to indicate that I should feel fortunate, and was not necessarily indicating that anyone else's was unfortunate.

With regards to the Euro question, technically, I have a German passport on account of my dad being German. But no, I'm Canadian, in the Toronto area. Post secondary education is slightly cheaper here and pay may be a bit more in certain areas of work, social services, teaching, policing, etc. But, the cost of living is high, ESP housing so it works itself out.
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