Help newbie judge good tailoring - Page 2

davemill -

 

Thanks for your comment. We are certainly not here to start a fight or pick a fight with anyone. However, I noticed an inconsistency in your first post and your last post, since in your first note you stated that you "visited a Hong Kong tailor, shopping for a blazer. He showed me a sample, which eventually caused us to leave without ordering anything". Then on your last post you mentioned that "To clarify, the jacket I was referring to was actually awaiting delivery to a customer later that day. It was just hanging there in the hotel room".

 

For the purpose of clarification, I'd like to reiterate that our fitters do not bring with them on their tours just any sample, our fitters show their own personal traveling wardrobe. Secondly, our fitters do not personally hand in or deliver the garments. We have special arrangements for that.

 

So please, before passing judgement on our products, please make sure your statements are consistent.

 

 

What you see is classic negative seo.

Notice how user the original poster drops the URL of hiras website in his post. What do you suppose comes up when anyone googled this company? A negative comment right on top. This tactic is common on forums to damage a competitors reputation.

davemil, I’ll believe you when you make your 100th post. I hope you can broaden your topics.
 

What you see is classic negative seo. Notice how user the original poster drops the URL of hiras website in his post. What do you suppose comes up when anyone googles this company? A negative comment right on top. This tactic is common on forums to damage a competitors reputation.

 

davemil, I’ll believe you when you make your 100th post. I hope you can broaden your topics.
 

I can't comment on the quality of Hiras in general (and I've seen people spamming links to them before, so I probably wouldn't recommend using them), but visible pick-stitching along the lapels is not necessarily a flaw. It is simply a style choice whether to have the pick-stitching visible or not.

Juliet, maybe you should post pictures of examples of your work and let it speak for itself, rather than trying to falsify the OP's story.

Is it worth just deleting this thread because it is clear that the OP is being dishonest and cannot even stick to a consistent story?

 

Thanks Sanguis, much appreciated.

 

However we definitely never spam links. If you look us up, we have only 12 links on the internet to our website as of today..! You can check here:

 

http://www.backlinkwatch.com/index.php

 

I found this thread when I ran the search a few days ago.

 

I'll definitely though get some nice pictures of the hand stitching and real button holes we do shortly and post this up later today. I've asked someone to head down to the workshop and photograph our ready stock.
 

Thanks everybody for your support.

 

'Hong Kong' 'tailor'.

What?

Well, when I see the all too frequent MC threaks with the keywords 'Hong Kong' and 'tailor' in them, they're often worth lurking. Seems to me with HK there are a few good tailors that are known to SF/MC, e.g. W. W. Chan, while there are many more bad ones. Plus I also think my times of wandering around Nathan Road, TST, muttering under my breath 'I don't want a fucking suit!!'.

BTW a couple of years ago I got a blazer from Sam's Tailor, an establishment that is often branded as a 'tourist trap' both on here and AAAC. I'm happy with it and wear it frequently, IMO it still looks and feels good, and seems to be holding up well.

Edited by MikeDT - 11/11/11 at 4:56am

MikeDT, thanks for your observation,

 

Actually, we completely agree with you. There are numerous tailors with lower ethical standards in Hong Kong. But like every industry, there is the good, the bad and the outright crooks.

 

Firstly, retail, and overnight suits trade in Hong Kong is at times frankly embarrassing. The quality and finishing can be laughable. A quality suit, even in a rush requires numerous specialists involved in every stage of production, and requires 1 week's time. It simply isn't possible to do a quality job in 24 hours.

 

For this reason our firm opted to leave the retail business in Hong Kong decades ago, when the industry standards started falling and leaning towards quick turnaround and lower prices but poor standards. We only have touring tailors, and standard delivery is 6-8 weeks for us, and rush work 2 weeks.

 

You see, in order to produce the 24 hour suit, your workshop has to be geared completely this way. Fabrics have to be kept in house, there isn't time to have a Dormeuil or Ermenelgdo Zegna fabric imported from Europe, and its usually the job of a single worker to take the entire night without sleep to complete it and present it in the morning. Take my word sleepy workers do not do wonders.

 

We prefer to stick to the slower but quality production system. Our methods require a greater variety of specialization, and at least 40-50 hours of hand work per suit.

 

Ultimately, it is always best, no matter what you are sourcing to always research for a reputable supplier in advance rather than to drop into the local tourist traps. Whether it be a tailor made suit in Hong Kong, or dining in Venice, looking at rugs in Cairo, in places famous for a certain product or service, there are always the world's best, the good, the bad and the outright crooks, and one who fails to spend two minutes to google the right place to shop at will ultimately suffer, and in turn, stereotype the entire industry based on their interactions with the bottom tier, and lose out on the very best it has to offer.

 

Believe me, there is a lot of talent (not trying to be vain here), in the tailoring industry in Hong Kong, but that talent lies in top 25% of the industry. The quality of work done here I consider to be possibly the best work in the world. However you have to go to the right tailors to see it.

 

I'm sorry if I ramble a bit at times. It just makes me sad when I see this attitude towards our industry.