You're a good sport if there ever was one, and I applaud your open discussion of this affliction. All of this is just IMHO. My tie tastes have evolved dramatically over the past 24 months, so I can sympathize. It might have been the weakest part of my wardrobe when I joined SF, and I thought I had GREAT ties. I think there's some truth to the notion that SF groupthink dictates a lot of tie criticism doled out on the forum these days. However, I think that the same SF groupthink tends to champion ties that are more classic and timeless, so that's not necessarily a bad thing.
Originally Posted by Threadbearer
First, my god man, if you have ties like this what are you doing wearing those other monstrosities?! The first 5 here are classically elegant. The last couple are okay for limited applications IMHO.
Originally Posted by EBugatti
I think 1, 3 are horrible; 2 is not good but on a pinch could pass (especially at night were it is not as noticeable). A rule of thumb for you is the following:
(1) don't buy ties that have a swirly sheen to them different to the underlying pattern (changing the angle of view to see this);
(2) don't buy ties that have a pattern that is complex with several colors and shading (that's what kills tie #3--if it were just the rusty orange with a simple pattern (without the shading, etc.) it would have been fine.) That's why o/o's works better. The underlying orange color is uniform.
(3) don't buy ties that are too thin and flimsy
(1) buy ties that have simple, distinct patters or no patterns
(2) stick to high quality, natural fibers
(3) remember that less is more--why do you think a large-motif herringbone grey cashmere tie would exude thrills on this site? (See edmorel)...
(4) woven tend to be nicer than printed ties
This is sound advice.
Originally Posted by Threadbearer
Okay, so there’s not much love for my B Team ties. But let’s take a look at them again -- this time while they’re actually on duty -- and see if anyone changes his mind. (At this point, I'm still convinced that they're all keepers.)
Tie 2 again, different application:
Tie 3 (which took 3rd place in last week's Gray Matters Challenge):
My initial thought was that these are all pretty bad. I think 6 might be alright for occasional spring use, and maybe 1 and 2 for fall/winter if you've got a complimentary tweed jacket and are feeling bold.
The reason why I quoted these particular pictures is that I think your shirt choices also worsen the effects of the dated feel of these ties. The bold stripes are pretty hard to pull off, and yours look too casual for their applications. They do not mix well with those tie patterns at all. I'd save those for khakis and casual blue SC's. If you had chosen just a simple light blue OCBD, you've got something that's acceptable even if a bit dated looking.
The last few pictures are good illustrations of the downfall of pastel shirts. I've noticed something interesting about your tendencies. You seem to have this desire to "match" the tie to the shirt or the whole ensemble. There's no need to match colors in your tie to colors of your other articles of clothing. In fact, when it's this obvious, it's rather inelegant. You commonly find this kind of combo rocked by blue-collar middle management and IT staff, and to me, these ensembles scream 1980's-1990's lower tier clothier ad campaigns. You might have better luck reserving those pastel shirts for more casual applications, or if you must, pair them with something softer and simpler and less shiny (maybe grenadines or wool/cashmere), but nothing with too colorful a pattern.