Originally Posted by notalwaysrig
Like the above poster said, Patagonia is great, as are some of the other companies listed. Arc Teryx is great, and has a really cool logo also. That being said, here is my suggestion regarding climbing pants.
I think the original poster should get some "ripstop" cargo pants for climbing, here is why this is what I believe: It's part principle, part personal rock climbing experience:
In the last decade or so, (i'm sure that many of you know this)... the specialized fabric/outdoor clothing industry has become very popular...even for non sportsman.
The following is my thoughts on why I think slim pants are a bad idea for climbing
As far as I'm concerned, this stuff is getting rediculous...(this is not directly meant for the Original Poster at all)...(just my comment on the matter)....
Once the general public hopped on the band wagon, every single sorority girl, financial services guy, or whatever started buying North Face Jackets (fleece usually)...which is great b/c they are quality products. (more on that in a minute.)
Because of this... backpackers started buying purchasing gear from other non mainstream companies such as Marmot. Then when the general public "took" that from the outdoor community, some of us started purchasing more products at Patagonia (which I certainly admit that Patagonia had been popular in very fashion forward areas for a while...probably at least ten years in NYC.)
Eventually, many of the great outdoor clothing companies went mainstream, so alot of climbers, backpackers, etc...switched to mountain hardwear. (a company that makes dome tents for everest base camp).
Well, now many people wear Mountain Hardwear.
...What's happening now, is that popular and functional are one in the same. A cynosure of civilization if you will.
Because of the general publics increasing trend of purchasing from these companies, and in order to differentiate themselves from people who had the money to buy every new jacket that came out; many backpackers, rock climbers, kayakers, etc...started going back to incorporating some "regular" or less specialized clothing into their gear. Maybe just a pair of jeans for base camp, a carhartt jacket, or a poncho from REI.
I for instance did the following: B/c of this...I went to a military surplus store and bought the military version of a typical north face fleece jacket. It has better zippers, better zipper pulls, better shoulder pads/elbow pads...and it has "pit zips"...a zipper under the armpit to regulate temperature. This surplus jacket was 40 bucks. I wear it with pride in REI, no logo...outstanding quality, solid black, and no logo.
I take pride in this jacket..it's better in general to North face fleece jackets, which are usually only rated at 100 or 200 weight fleece and they are expensive. Mine is 300 wt fleece I think.
I wear this with pride.
So to the original poster, of course, you should wear whatever makes you feel good...and yes, you can buy all types of "yoga" like clothing as the other gentleman said...but why would you?
I climb, and I don't know why you would want to restrict your movement? Why would you decrease your level of climbing safety. (yes, i understand that some of these fabrics are very stretchy..no doubt)...but why? Why compromise safety. Those slim, stretchy pants...won't save you from being cut by a speckled granite wall.
Get some ripstop, military grade cargo pants..the kind that paramedics wear. Rock climbing is about being an individual, testing your limits, and also having fun with your friends. Be Original in your clothing choices regarding the sport. My point...all of this new age, fashionable yoga outdoor clothing like Prana is crap. let people envy you for your climbing skill and technique, not for your style...if you want to get props and respect from real climbers, buy a nice black diamond harness, or some expensive carabiners...anything but the clothing.
Happy Holidays and peace on earth.
Arc'teryx has a great logo. ..awesome reason to buy it.
So you recommend some regular cargo pants. Which is fine, but you're reasoning is ridiculous.
You describe a decade of enthusiasts embracing a brand until such a time as it's incorporated into mainstream use.
First North Face (fleece), then Marmot, then Patagonia, then Mountain Hardwear and now enthusiasts are giving up and going climbing in jeans. ..and because of this cycle of adopting a brand to identify as an individual with credibility within the community only to abandon it when the non climber Freds catch on to the trend you've given up entirely on the plethora of options available for suitable athletic gear because you can't be proud of it as it no longer sets you apart.
Instead, you've gone the army surplus route.
("˜cause that's Original. No hiker, climber or outdoorsman has thought of that before) and have assessed the "new age" yoga stuff like Prana to be crap. Despite being made from pretty much the same materials/methods as the non "new age" brands like arc'teryx, craft, mountain hardwear, chlorophyl, etc etc..
Basically, your advice to not get hooked up on a brand or sport specific clothing is somewhat reasonable, but your reasoning for it, makes you sound like a idiot. Like a kid who will only listen to indie bands that nobody has heard of and slags as sell outs them when they sign to a major label.