Originally Posted by Fuuma
I dunno, all that Junya manly tech/americana/outdoor thing can provide some nice pieces, for example I like SNS Herning knits, but as a fashion line it sounds so restrictive and kinda on its way down. Nigel Cabourn seems to have deeper roots and range going for it + its more geek than fashion. WM is like what I dislike about Junya coupled with Visvim. Oh and anyone wearing fun socks should die.
I'll completed agree that it's absolutely restrictive, but more than anything it's just fun
. I mean it's interesting to geek out with NC and the attention to detail is phenomenal and I doubt any of the more classic Cabourn pieces will ever look outdated or even untrendy, but right now there is a large group of people and designers interested in taking [one of or] a mix of heritage, americana, tech/outdoor stuff and just have some fun with it.
This is immediately apparent in something like Junya collections, which for as long as I know have taken some theme of american life or culture and taken "classic" pieces dealing with this theme and added playful twists or concepts to everything. Sometimes subtle and sometimes extreme, but the whole idea of all of this being "kinda on it's way down" is irrelevant because the appeal is immediate and I don't think it's ever portrayed as anything but.
You can buy a $1500 WM goretex shell with an allover print of some reworked tribal pattern, and yes the construction will be impeccable but I really don't think anyone buying that is doing so under the impression that they will be attached to this piece for a long time, or that it will be relevant in time. Maybe someone buying a black Patagonia shell will feel this way, but there is still a good chance they'll pick up something new in a few years anyway. For the WM guy it's just an immediate appeal to wear something fun with a pretty cool concept behind it.
I'm writing a lot of words about this because my personal style and stance on fashion in general is pretty closely tied to all this that I'm talking about. We have plenty of "classic" menswear/sportswear, and the past few years have seen a massive
resurgence in men caring about what they look like and it's been tied closely to this, since it seems easier for the male population to swallow fashion when it's something they can feel like their dad/grandfather wore and what "real men" wore.
As I'm sure you know this is just as much a trend as anything else and will tire as quickly as anything else, so in the meantime why not have some actual fun with your clothes? So you (not you personally Fuuma) wear a Harris Tweed vest with suede elbow patches just like your dad's favorite professor did. so what. Check out this fucking blazer made of neoprene with an all over print of that tweed. In 5 years when tweed blazers are no longer hip it won't matter either way, but there's no reason to dismiss something current just because it's "restrictive and on it's way down." Critical mass had been achieved in americana/heritage a few years ago as far as I'm concerned, so for now it's fun to ride the wave of exaggerated twists on this while it lasts.
Edit: see my thread for more people and labels having some fun with their clothes while not pushing any boundaries of design.Edited by tween_spirit - 7/27/11 at 9:24am