Do you sympathaize with eco-terrorists?

Originally Posted by NorCal

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Interesting that you would write that considering your sig. By your definition Ben F. was nothing more than a common criminal.
Really? I guess you don't know anything about the American Revolution, or what Ben F. tried to do. Might want to get a good history text book, read it, and get back to us. EDIT: Perfect example, I must say, about the "spin" I was referring to when it comes to eco-terrorists -- well done, and bravo (it's part and parcel of what eco-terrorist organizations do in fact do, I agree, so a beautiful parody on your part; but nothing funny about blowing up people or property, etc., in the name of a fanatical cause, to which my sig is on point, and for which eco-terrorists need to answer in a court of law).

Originally Posted by Avocat

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Really? I guess you don't know anything about the American Revolution, or what Ben F. tried to do. Might want to get a good history text book, read it, and get back to us. EDIT: Perfect example, I must say, about the "spin" I was referring to when it comes to eco-terrorists -- well done, and bravo (it's part and parcel of what those eco-terrorist organizations do in fact do, I agree, so a beautiful parody on your part; but nothing funny about blowing up people or property, etc., in the name of a fanatical cause, to which my sig is on point).
**** you you Canuck Cocksuker. Don't profess to lecture me on my own revolution. Oh, and liberty is not a fanatical cause so don't attempt to paint our glorious revolution in that manner.

Originally Posted by NorCal

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**** you you Canuck Cocksuker. Don't profess to lecture me on my own revolution.
Oh, and liberty is not a fanatical cause so don't attempt to paint our glorious revolution in that manner.

Puff the magic dragon, lived by the sea ... MORON.

Originally Posted by Avocat

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Puff the magic dragon, lived by the sea ... MORON.

Go **** a moose...moran.

Originally Posted by NorCal

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Go **** a moose...moran.
Not interested in you, thanks .... moose hunting is over for the season. Are all of you eco-terrorist recruits as dumb as a door knob, or is it just you? It's moron, not moran: MORON. Back to the topic of the post, "Do (I) sympathize with eco-terrorists?" Like I said, Nope.

I don't know if I'd label them as terrorists. Arsonists, sure.

Originally Posted by erictheobscure

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To some degree, yes. Their frustration and extreme tactics clearly stem from a reasonable source: they see that our insistence on a particular style of life has very negative consequences--and that some of these consequences might be disastrous and irremediable. I suppose the middle-of-the-road sentiment is to pooh-pooh disruptive or violent measures in general. But I find this highly disingenuous. Sustaining the kind of lives that many or most of us enjoy entails all sorts of unjust acts that we have the luxury of ignoring--ranging from horrid labor practices to decimation of natural resources to covert or large-scale warfare. That said, the problem of legitimizing violence for a cause is obviously a thorny one.

That pretty much sums up my feelings.

Originally Posted by NorCal

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**** you you Canuck Cocksuker. Don't profess to lecture me on my own revolution.
Oh, and liberty is not a fanatical cause so don't attempt to paint our glorious revolution in that manner.

Avocat is a fine addition to the CE (meaning he's a marsupial).

Originally Posted by RSS

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No I do not. I do not side with terrorists period.

+1.


anyway, i hate hate hate anyone against GM. it makes me angry.

Originally Posted by Fuuma

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Avocat is a fine addition to the CE (meaning he's a marsupial).
*Yawnz* If we used you as a yardstick, most on CE would be brain surgeons compared to yourself (though most are marsupials, and love to argue nonsense just like yourself). Meantime, I already told you that I don't swing your way, so best you stop wasting your time and go hit on someone else

Originally Posted by Pantisocrat

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I just read a report stating that eco-terrorists are among the FBI's most watched domestic terrorist groups. And that a large part of them are based out of Oregon. Seeing how there's so little discussion on this topic, I'd like to hear the opinions of the fine folks here.
To bring this post back on topic, I just thought I'd bring to everyone's attention an article in the Washington Times, stating that Osama bin Laden claims he waged war on the US to defend the environment from the evil polluting US, and save the planet by setting up an Islamic organization (to be headed up by himself of course). You can read more about it here: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...en-goes-green/ No, Norcal: killing innocent civilians and destruction of property, etc. by fanatical terrorists like bin Laden or eco-terrorists isn't comparable to US colonists-turned-revolutionaries who were fighting for basic rights against oppression and tyranny, and even then only took up arms when attempts by Ben F. (and others) at reasoning with the offshore King fell on deaf ears; but attempts to negotiate only made things worse for the colonists. The next thing you know, armed British soldiers were firing at armed American soldiers. Eco-terrorists, like PETA who funded ALF, kill/injure unarmed innocent civilians and/or damage civilian property, etc. Sad thing is, some people fall for fanatical propaganda, else these orgs wouldn't be getting donations, much less volunteers. Already expressed my opinion on the matter and sticking to it: nothing glorious about terrorism, at all. tl/DR: according to the Washington Times, Osama bin Laden claims he had no choice, citing environmental concerns. Believe it? (rhetorical question, no need to answer, but the article is quite illuminating).

Originally Posted by Avocat

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Not interested in you, thanks .... moose hunting is over for the season. Are all of you eco-terrorist recruits as dumb as a door knob, or is it just you? It's moron, not moran: MORON.



The "A" is for America and that means liberty.

Originally Posted by NorCal

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The "A" is for America and that means liberty.
Liberty is spelled with an "L" -- like in Canada's Maple Leaf. But for you to equate eco-terrorists with Ben F. as you did is anti-American, anti-west and anti-Liberty. It also means that you must sympathize with Osama bin Laden, who calls himself an eco-warrior. Don't think the big guy in the picture who can't spell any better than you would like you equating Ben F. to a criminal eco-terrorist either ... just a piece of friendly advice: you might really want to re-think that. EDIT: Just adding a link to the RCMP's "Hug-a-Tree" program: http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/hugtree-pr.../index-eng.htm (teaching kids to enjoy the great outdoors so that they grow up to be good environmentalists without getting lost in the woods).

Originally Posted by Avocat

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Eco-terrorists, like PETA who funded ALF, kill/injure unarmed innocent civilians and/or damage civilian property, etc.

What civilians has PETA killed?

Originally Posted by Nosu3

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What civilians has PETA killed?

He means they're extremists whose disruptive, arrogant, and self-important attention-grabbing antics make the rest of us who simply care about animals look bad right along with them.

Originally Posted by Nosu3

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What civilians has PETA killed?
I didn't say PETA killed civilians. I said PETA members have committed assaults against civilians and a federal minister, which are criminal acts (read the link to the news article and see for yourself why it is that charges under the anti-terrorism provisions are being urged). ALF and the ELF, however, are violent animal rights extremist groups in the US, their members being charged with a host of serious crimes, from arson to blowing up buildings and cars, and bomb threats (endangering lives, intimidation and causing serious property damage). It's only a matter of time before someone dies, and they're known to the FBI. Do a google search and see how PETA allegedly provides aid in the form of donations and/or contributes to the cost of legal fees, etc. for these terrorist groups (and also see how these terrorists "ethically" treat human beings and private property). Seriously, though, did you not know this?