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post #61 of 81
Sex has lost absolutely nothing.
post #62 of 81
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Originally Posted by Nantucket Red
Sex has lost absolutely nothing.

you, fine sir, are obviously still on your game.
post #63 of 81
I think one of the biggest problems is the kind of entitlement Americans expect, we're spoiled. Blame it on kids, parents, culture -all or none. I rolled my eyes when my relatives talked about how the depression made them tougher and more thankful for everyday things. but they didn't lack humility.

When I listen to some foul mouth hussie in the Wal - Mart
bitchin' about some minor consumer problem, or some able bodied teen pullin' into a handicap space cause he's a lazy arrogant jerk -its pretty sad to see how low the level of dignity has fallen, and how highly we think of ourselves.

(my sermon is over, you may begin throwing tomatoes at podium now)
post #64 of 81
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Originally Posted by designprofessor
I think one of the biggest problems is the kind of entitlement Americans expect, we're spoiled. Blame it on kids, parents, culture -all or none. I rolled my eyes when my relatives talked about how the depression made them tougher and more thankful for everyday things. but they didn't lack humility.

When I listen to some foul mouth hussie in the Wal - Mart
bitchin' about some minor consumer problem, or some able bodied teen pullin' into a handicap space cause he's a lazy arrogant jerk -its pretty sad to see how low the level of dignity has fallen, and how highly we think of ourselves.

(my sermon is over, you may begin throwing tomatoes at podium now)

May I recommend the fine MTV program "My Super Sweet 16"? That, my friends, is America at its very pinnacle of...something.
post #65 of 81
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Originally Posted by designprofessor
I think one of the biggest problems is the kind of entitlement Americans expect, we're spoiled. Blame it on kids, parents, culture -all or none. I rolled my eyes when my relatives talked about how the depression made them tougher and more thankful for everyday things. but they didn't lack humility.

When I listen to some foul mouth hussie in the Wal - Mart
bitchin' about some minor consumer problem, or some able bodied teen pullin' into a handicap space cause he's a lazy arrogant jerk -its pretty sad to see how low the level of dignity has fallen, and how highly we think of ourselves.

(my sermon is over, you may begin throwing tomatoes at podium now)

I can't speak to whether it was ever better before, but as far as what Americans tend to be like now, I agree 100%.

Augusto, I've seen one episode of that show and decided that, in the interests of maintaining healthy blood pressure, I should probably never watch it again.
post #66 of 81
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Originally Posted by Augusto86
May I recommend the fine MTV program "My Super Sweet 16"? That, my friends, is America at its very pinnacle of...something.

I have a suspicion that there have always been people like that. They just weren't on television back in the day.
post #67 of 81
Could not agree more. The enormous population growth from immigration has hurt us more than anything along with instant gratification. I am only in my 20s but have seen this happen over the last 10 years even. I go out in the streets and people don't even know how to speak English. As if the flip-flops aren't bad enough, what about the refugees and illegal immigrants coming over who are just filthy. They sport all the best fashions from the Salvation Army, neon green tank top with some biker shorts. I don't even want to go out some places because they have turned into eye sores in the past 10 years just because of the clientelle. I read somewhere that 1 million LEGAL immigrants come in every year, and probably just as many illegal ones! We are certainly NOT a nation of immigrants, but we are rapidly becoming one. As for racism, the only racism you see these days is against the European-American (to be PC). In California especially, you get this condescending attitude if you aren't "colored" because there isn't anything special about you. I know people who are maybe 7/8 white and 1/8 something else, but they latch on to that 1/8 as if they belong to something because of it. I used to live outside D.C. and got in fights weekly for being the smart white kid. Blame whitey, you're too smart and hard-working! Yay liberal guilt! We let people into MY country and they take to the streets protesting that we aren't giving them enough. Land of opportunity? What opportunity?! I paid $500 a month to SHARE a 3 bedroom apartment with 3 other people. If we didn't have illegal immigrants taking all the blue collar jobs and the huge influx of immigrants causing a housing crunch, I might still be able to afford a house and maybe even have a job that pays more than minimum wage. The instant gratification in this culture makes me sick too. Let's get on the pill and spread my legs every weekend because I'm "liberated." More like self-objectification. I think sex in a marriage has probably changed very little in the past decades. That is, for those who actually get married. Now we actually see on MTV people called "Baby's Mama" and you are good father as long as you pay child support? Women still use men to get free drinks, money, financial security, you name it. Those women that go around expecting men to perform and just have fun all the time end up in the gutter after their 9th failed marriage. The only thing women's lib has done is make women unaccountable for their actions. Women these days think they are owed something just for having breasts. No female knows how to even cook anymore but they know how to mix every cocktail in the book, sounds like a recipe for a successful "partner" to me. I know my grandma enjoyed sex a great deal (yes, don't ask) and she was only ever with my grandpa. I don't think women really enjoy sex anymore today, they just use sex to sleep their way to an acting deal, they like the attention even if it means being videotaped, or do it out of sheer penis envy. I think most women today are pretty vapid, spouting buzz words from the latest issue of Rolling Stone, and are more or less dead inside. I can't quite comment on the death of the inner city. Seems to me you can still find this stuff in big cities like SF, NY, LA, etc due to the fact that there isn't any room for a shopping mall, if anything. I have been to Europe and Union Square in SF has the same feel as any other big city. The modern shopping mall has become a cesspool however, when going to one in California I feel as though I'm in a third world country. Nobody speaks english. They are just a hangout for underachieving youths and refugees. All in all, the standard of living from 30 years ago has to have dropped. You can't afford anything, everyone I know, even people in their 30s have roommates still! You can't just buy a house, work your day job, and have a family anymore.
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Originally Posted by kennethpollock
I am 65. A lot has changed in the USA and it is hard to get used to some of them. They include, IMO, in no particular order: (a) Decline in standards of dress (b) Decline in manners (c) More sexual openness and a decline in morals, due to a perversion of women's liberation and the Pill, IMO (d) Less open racism and segregation (about the same, but mostly hidden now) and more political correctness (e) Death of the inner part of almost all American cities (what little is left in most is mostly government offices and government built structures like libraries, sports arenas, etc.) due, IMO, to white flight and the automobile. This is hard for me to accept. I am an urbanite, but now, except for NY, I have to go to Europe to enjoy the pleasures of central city strolling, window shopping, etc. (f) Loss of influence of the Church and religion (40 years ago, American ministers would have demanded and gotten the resignation of Bill Clinton) (g) More gadgets such as computers, cell-phones, etc. (h) More immigrants (illegal and legal)
post #68 of 81
tiecollector, I'm not sure if you're serious, so I'm not going to respond yet.
post #69 of 81
dead serious, if you live in a different world, let me know how I can move to yours and I'll trade you a Brioni suit for your finder's fee.
post #70 of 81
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Originally Posted by tiecollector
dead serious, if you live in a different world, let me know how I can move to yours and I'll trade you a Brioni suit for your finder's fee.
Will it be made with Armani cloth?
post #71 of 81
absolutely!
post #72 of 81
folks, this is what a 25 year old kenneth pollack looks like....


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Originally Posted by tiecollector
Could not agree more.

The enormous population growth from immigration has hurt us more than anything along with instant gratification. I am only in my 20s but have seen this happen over the last 10 years even. I go out in the streets and people don't even know how to speak English. As if the flip-flops aren't bad enough, what about the refugees and illegal immigrants coming over who are just filthy. They sport all the best fashions from the Salvation Army, neon green tank top with some biker shorts. I don't even want to go out some places because they have turned into eye sores in the past 10 years just because of the clientelle. I read somewhere that 1 million LEGAL immigrants come in every year, and probably just as many illegal ones! We are certainly NOT a nation of immigrants, but we are rapidly becoming one.

As for racism, the only racism you see these days is against the European-American (to be PC). In California especially, you get this condescending attitude if you aren't "colored" because there isn't anything special about you. I know people who are maybe 7/8 white and 1/8 something else, but they latch on to that 1/8 as if they belong to something because of it. I used to live outside D.C. and got in fights weekly for being the smart white kid. Blame whitey, you're too smart and hard-working! Yay liberal guilt! We let people into MY country and they take to the streets protesting that we aren't giving them enough.

Land of opportunity? What opportunity?! I paid $500 a month to SHARE a 3 bedroom apartment with 3 other people. If we didn't have illegal immigrants taking all the blue collar jobs and the huge influx of immigrants causing a housing crunch, I might still be able to afford a house and maybe even have a job that pays more than minimum wage.

The instant gratification in this culture makes me sick too. Let's get on the pill and spread my legs every weekend because I'm "liberated." More like self-objectification. I think sex in a marriage has probably changed very little in the past decades. That is, for those who actually get married. Now we actually see on MTV people called "Baby's Mama" and you are good father as long as you pay child support? Women still use men to get free drinks, money, financial security, you name it. Those women that go around expecting men to perform and just have fun all the time end up in the gutter after their 9th failed marriage. The only thing women's lib has done is make women unaccountable for their actions. Women these days think they are owed something just for having breasts. No female knows how to even cook anymore but they know how to mix every cocktail in the book, sounds like a recipe for a successful "partner" to me. I know my grandma enjoyed sex a great deal (yes, don't ask) and she was only ever with my grandpa. I don't think women really enjoy sex anymore today, they just use sex to sleep their way to an acting deal, they like the attention even if it means being videotaped, or do it out of sheer penis envy. I think most women today are pretty vapid, spouting buzz words from the latest issue of Rolling Stone, and are more or less dead inside.

I can't quite comment on the death of the inner city. Seems to me you can still find this stuff in big cities like SF, NY, LA, etc due to the fact that there isn't any room for a shopping mall, if anything. I have been to Europe and Union Square in SF has the same feel as any other big city. The modern shopping mall has become a cesspool however, when going to one in California I feel as though I'm in a third world country. Nobody speaks english. They are just a hangout for underachieving youths and refugees.

All in all, the standard of living from 30 years ago has to have dropped. You can't afford anything, everyone I know, even people in their 30s have roommates still! You can't just buy a house, work your day job, and have a family anymore.
post #73 of 81
OnLine Porn
post #74 of 81
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Originally Posted by tiecollector
Could not agree more.

The enormous population growth from immigration has hurt us more than anything along with instant gratification. I am only in my 20s but have seen this happen over the last 10 years even. I go out in the streets and people don't even know how to speak English. As if the flip-flops aren't bad enough, what about the refugees and illegal immigrants coming over who are just filthy. They sport all the best fashions from the Salvation Army, neon green tank top with some biker shorts. I don't even want to go out some places because they have turned into eye sores in the past 10 years just because of the clientelle. I read somewhere that 1 million LEGAL immigrants come in every year, and probably just as many illegal ones! We are certainly NOT a nation of immigrants, but we are rapidly becoming one.

Um, the US has always been a nation of immigrants. In many time periods the population growth from immigration exceeded the population growth from childbirth. Only the baby boomer era has helped people forget about that, at least until recent years, but even during the 50s and 60s many people immigrated to the US.

In the recent past, there were many minorities that didn't know how to speak English that were once considered second-class citizens, that are now integral parts of US society. Certainly the problem of illegal immigration, at least in California, is an issue that needs to be dealt with, but denigrating immigrants isn't the solution, although to be fair, it's a time-honored concept.

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As for racism, the only racism you see these days is against the European-American (to be PC). In California especially, you get this condescending attitude if you aren't "colored" because there isn't anything special about you. I know people who are maybe 7/8 white and 1/8 something else, but they latch on to that 1/8 as if they belong to something because of it. I used to live outside D.C. and got in fights weekly for being the smart white kid. Blame whitey, you're too smart and hard-working! Yay liberal guilt! We let people into MY country and they take to the streets protesting that we aren't giving them enough.

I see plenty of racism in your post. As Mr. Pollock said, the racism is almost the same, but less open now. This applies in your post, as you might not have come right out and said "I hate Mexicans" but you more or less did so anyways. Minorities that are considered "culturally disadvantaged" are sometimes offered affirmative action and this could concievably be considered reverse racism, but until recently, the UC system's de-facto quota system actually benefited white applicants almost as much as it benefited "traditionally-disadvantaged" races. This was clearly a backlash against the early 90s and 40+% Asian student populations at Cal and UCLA, and after the caps were lifted, the demographics are changing somewhat. Consider it discrimination, but on the basis of merit.

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Land of opportunity? What opportunity?! I paid $500 a month to SHARE a 3 bedroom apartment with 3 other people. If we didn't have illegal immigrants taking all the blue collar jobs and the huge influx of immigrants causing a housing crunch, I might still be able to afford a house and maybe even have a job that pays more than minimum wage.

Maybe instead of whining about it, you could work harder so you could afford a house. I'm sure it's the immigrants, and not real-estate speculation that's driving housing prices up, since you know, most of the illegal immigrants own their own homes.

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The instant gratification in this culture makes me sick too. Let's get on the pill and spread my legs every weekend because I'm "liberated." More like self-objectification. I think sex in a marriage has probably changed very little in the past decades. That is, for those who actually get married. Now we actually see on MTV people called "Baby's Mama" and you are good father as long as you pay child support? Women still use men to get free drinks, money, financial security, you name it. Those women that go around expecting men to perform and just have fun all the time end up in the gutter after their 9th failed marriage. The only thing women's lib has done is make women unaccountable for their actions. Women these days think they are owed something just for having breasts. No female knows how to even cook anymore but they know how to mix every cocktail in the book, sounds like a recipe for a successful "partner" to me. I know my grandma enjoyed sex a great deal (yes, don't ask) and she was only ever with my grandpa. I don't think women really enjoy sex anymore today, they just use sex to sleep their way to an acting deal, they like the attention even if it means being videotaped, or do it out of sheer penis envy. I think most women today are pretty vapid, spouting buzz words from the latest issue of Rolling Stone, and are more or less dead inside.

No misogyny detected here. Not too popular with the ladies? What a shame.

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I can't quite comment on the death of the inner city. Seems to me you can still find this stuff in big cities like SF, NY, LA, etc due to the fact that there isn't any room for a shopping mall, if anything. I have been to Europe and Union Square in SF has the same feel as any other big city. The modern shopping mall has become a cesspool however, when going to one in California I feel as though I'm in a third world country. Nobody speaks english. They are just a hangout for underachieving youths and refugees.

Yeah, there's plenty of inner city in LA, are you kidding? SF has a nice downtown, but it's hardly the same as Europe, even if it is more European than most cities on the west coast of the US. NY is NY, not really a comparable city to it in the world. As far as malls go, we get the point, you don't like Mexicans, and sure, there are a lot of them at malls in the LA area, especially Eastern LA county. Noone's forcing you to go, so if you don't like it, don't. Maybe you'll have better luck with SCP, Fashion Island, the Beverly Center, and Rodeo Drive.

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All in all, the standard of living from 30 years ago has to have dropped. You can't afford anything, everyone I know, even people in their 30s have roommates still! You can't just buy a house, work your day job, and have a family anymore.

It's become a bit more difficult to own your own home in areas like Southern California, but many people, including myself, have owned our own homes by age 25, and I don't think it's that unusual, maybe its the people you know.
post #75 of 81
Thank you Globe and Drizzt.
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