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Does anyone not think Melisandre tries to burn Jon, she can't burn him because he's actually blood of the Dragon, he comes back to life, wakens some dragons, saves the world, meets up with Dany, and they marry and end up ruling? Of course they will die horrible deaths, as will their kids, and their kids' kids, etc. as that's who GRRM rolls.
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She says she needs King's blood to wake the Dragon from the stone. That's why she wanted to burn Edric Storm. In the show- Gendry next week. She'll resort to only leeching him and burning the leeches naming Robb Stark, Balon Greyjoy, and Joffrey Baratheon as she throws them into the flames. Funny how that works.

That said, she may have the prophecy wrong. She thinks burning someone with King's blood will wake an actual dragon on Dragonstone. But, she could have it right and just applying it wrong. In attempting to burn Jon Snow's corpse (frozen like stone) she wakes the dragon (Targaryen) inside of him (R+L=J).

Or, she could have missed the true action- Danaerys burning Khal Drogo (King's blood) woke the dragons from the stone (petrified eggs).

Both hold up to scrutiny, Dany especially, because it's already played out. That would make her Azor Ahai reborn and the Prince(ss) that was Promised. See Maester Aemon's sex neutral nouns in Valaryen discussion with Samwell.

When the red star bleeds and the darkness gathers, Azor Ahai shall be born again amidst smoke and salt. Dany was born under a red comet like the one in the end of AGoT and beginning of ACoK. She was born on Dragonstone (island- smoke and salt).

I like the Jon theory only because I think all of the hinting about R+L=J must mean something. They can't all be red herrings leading us down a rabbit hole.
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Looking forward to when the conditions are met for Dany to be able to get with child again. It's referenced in her interior monologue too much for it not to have significance.

Also, I think George has several thoughts of how to end all this so he's just tossing about several different paths to getting there and will decided later how to do this.
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he better have at least crude manuscripts locked away just in case. or i will get the red priestess to bring him back just so i can kill him.

Is Necromancy Kosher?
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noap!
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Producer says only Seven seasons for GoT, although not one of the two Exec Producers:

http://io9.com/game-of-thrones-will-end-with-season-7-according-to-pr-508275905

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They're going to completely cut out Dorne. It will be confusing if Arienne becomes a major character later,but WTH. Maybe they will keep the Red Viper as part of Tyrion's story. But Doran, the Myrcella plot, that's all gone. And, the Iron Islands are gone too. AFfC is essentially gone except Arya and Samwell/Maester Aemon story. Instead of 2 seasons, those two books are going to be one season. And, then they'll be ahead of GRRM before we know it, making mockeries of the characters.
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If its profitable enough, and it will most likely be, I do see it go beyond 7 seasons.
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$$$$ agreed $$$$
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True. But they could pretty easily cut lots of stuff to get it down to 7 seasons.
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Pretty much all the Dorne stuff, all the Iron Islands stuff, a good chunk of Cersei's chapters, a good chunk of Dany's chapters... Add in the fact that theyll probably start some of book 4/5 next season and that gives them basically 1.25 seasons to do 4/5, which I think is pretty doable given the amount of fluff there.
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There are some book storylines that suck and don't need to be in the show, I agree. The books themselves get very tedious at times. There was one of them (don't remember which one now) where I put it down after going through the whole thing and said to myself, none of that was really necessary or interesting
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sounds like the harry potter 5th book. though imo the 5th movie was the best.
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There are some book storylines that suck and don't need to be in the show, I agree. The books themselves get very tedious at times. There was one of them (don't remember which one now) where I put it down after going through the whole thing and said to myself, none of that was really necessary or interesting

A Feast For Crows. There were a few parts that I did enjoy but they were a lot fewer and farther between than in any other book in the series.

I appreciate what he was trying to do, which was to give a widescreen picture of the fallout from all of the violence in the first three books. I'm not sure I would call it an anti-war novel, but it at least borrows a bit from the anti-war literary tradition, particularly
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Septon Maribald's monologue. Speaking of which, I wonder if this speech will show up in the series. I imagine it would be put in the mouth of a different character. That whole section, with Brienne and Pod walking across the continent, is likely to come off worse in the show than in the book, even if it ends with a pretty couple of pretty neat scenes and the Lady Stoneheart reveal. I would imagine that they create some new Brienne and Pod adventures to bridge the gap.

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A Feast For Crows. There were a few parts that I did enjoy but they were a lot fewer and farther between than in any other book in the series.

I appreciate what he was trying to do, which was to give a widescreen picture of the fallout from all of the violence in the first three books. I'm not sure I would call it an anti-war novel, but it at least borrows a bit from the anti-war literary tradition, particularly
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Septon Maribald's monologue. Speaking of which, I wonder if this speech will show up in the series. I imagine it would be put in the mouth of a different character. That whole section, with Brienne and Pod walking across the continent, is likely to come off worse in the show than in the book, even if it ends with a pretty couple of pretty neat scenes and the Lady Stoneheart reveal. I would imagine that they create some new Brienne and Pod adventures to bridge the gap.
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Lady Stoneheart is the epilogue of ASoS hanging one of the Frey sons or grandsons who is supposed to be ransoming one of his cousins.

I really like the Brienne and Pod story as well as Brienne's interactions with Randyll Tarly. He makes Sam fall into the category of the unreliable narrator. Sure he's rigid, but he's not that bad.

Also Samwell's travels with Maester Aemon will have to be in there. Plus the Arya story and their overlap. Arya's story continues to be great. Who are you? No one. Who killed him? Arya of House Stark.

I think they'll eliminate Dorne and most of the Iron Islands except the Kingsmoot.

AFfC is definitely better the second time around.

And, the Gravedigger/Hound/Sandor story on the Quiet Isle is terrific. Of course, I love Sandor.
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Yeah I meant to mention the Arya story, of which I like every part. She is my favorite character in the book (Tyrion is my favorite in the show, although the girl who plays Arya is very good) for a number of reasons. Even if the rest of these books are terrible I will still read them just to see Arya to come back to Westeros and leave a trail of bodies across the map.
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Yeah I meant to mention the Arya story, of which I like every part. She is my favorite character in the book (Tyrion is my favorite in the show, although the girl who plays Arya is very good) for a number of reasons. Even if the rest of these books are terrible I will still read them just to see Arya to come back to Westeros and leave a trail of bodies across the map.
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Arya's my favorite too. In season 1 they did her justice, but because she's neither sexy nor in KL they've given her short shrift on the show. I hope her travels with Sandor are featured because they are so good. I can't believe they killed off the Tickler already. So bad of a revision.

The others in my personal top 5: Ser Barristan, Sandor, Tyrion, and Wyman Manderley. Brienne is a close 6th and she's growing on my list b/c of the show. Great portrayal. Jon Snow was through the first 3 books, but in ADwD I really began to dislike him and Manderly became so damn good. I hope they don't cut him out. So critical to so many storylines for Davos, the Boltons, Rickon, Stannis, etc. And, I hope they find an actor fat enough to play him. Having a Hollywood pretty actor will just not work. He needs to be serious obese. The fact that Magister Illyrio is about 200 pounds is sad.
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There is a GoT card game ... nod[1].gif



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