OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Thread - Page 114

^ I guess you could say that, but really it's just a badass song that the Lannisters ensure everyone knows the words to so as to communicate the all important message that they are not to be fucked with.

EDIT: in retrospect I wonder why they did that? It's not like they've made a point of explaining in the show what that song is all about and the backstory with house Reyne etc. The only people who are going to be all about it are the book-readers. Either it's a pretty significant nod to said readers (The National is a reasonably big deal) or the band was just really into doing it.
Edited by AR_Six - 5/28/12 at 9:30am

There is definitely an element of fan service. But why the hell not. A lot of people have read the books and the show has cut out some of the coolest stuff this season, so why not throw us a bone.

THIS

I haven't seen it yet, but putting the rains of castamere in it will probably make it my least loathed episode. How was the Jon Qhorin situation handled?

They haven't yet, since they're currently both captives. This episode was devoted entirely to King's Landing so nothing else had a chance to get progressed. Here's hoping the finale is 2 hours. Yeah I know, it's not going to happen.

Ahh ok. So was the wildfire convincing, did the tyrion podrick moore thing go down believably, did the florian jonquil thing happen?

i didn't mean the scene where bronn and company are singing it before battle, but the amazing rendition during the credits.

I guess the wildfire was convincing. That's what I would've thought it'd look like. The Tyrion / Pod / Moore thing was fine, happened differently given that that whole part of the battle happens on land, though it was a solid surprise though I wasn't clear on which Kingsguard it was, presumably they may change it to Meryn Trant. Not sure how the scar will turn out.

The florian / jonquil stuff I don't know what you mean. Dontos? That's later.

An attentive audience should be able to listen to the lyrics and get the point of the song without really knowing the backstory.

The backstory makes it way, way more potent.

I'm tripping about the dontos part. Getting ahead of myself.

Really? not having read the books, I thought the episode was shit.

It looked like a battle of maybe 100 men. That "city" just feels so tiny as well. I guess I'm spoiled by recent epic battles (Helm's Deep?) but it was just real unconvincing. Even the gate looked puny.


Tyrion's awesomeness is now getting to the point where he is no longer interesting.

I thought he looked effectively afraid throughout most of that episode. And not terribly effective as an actual warrior. He killed one dude whose back was turned by cutting off his leg, and then was nearly killed by a second though he was, to be fair, holding his own. If anyone's made out to be an unstoppable badass it's Bronn, who apparently can do pretty much everything - drunk - while laughing his balls off about it.

As for the scale I think we know that the budget is such that expecting several million dollars' worth of battle scene was just not realistic and if that's what you were expecting then... man I don't know what to tell you.

They spent an hour. They got the wildfire thing in, they got a bunch of character development for the Hound, they got some GREAT Cersei scenes (you can kinda get where she's coming from which is much harder to do without a 3rd person omniscient narrator relating her innermost thoughts), they did a good Tyrion rally-the-troops scene, got the scar in there, and the absence of the chain was not sorely missed. It ended a bit abrubtly, granted, and they cut the fake-Renly-Loras thing down to a point where it might not have been super clear that that was what was happening but it can be explained in the aftermath.

^Yeah there is the added point that the Helm's Deep battle was a joke, a mess, and a travesty, but I have no inclination to get into that again so I ignored.

Just started watching all season 2 episodes back-to-back (haven't been keeping up with it weekly) and just finished episode 7 -- a man without honor.

HOLY SHIT!

no way those two charred bodies are the kids.