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post #121 of 3813
I enjoy Bran's POV and can't wait to see where it goes.

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I think the Reed siblings are two of the most interesting characters in the books. Plus he's going to meet Coldhands and I want to hear about how Howland Reed saved Ned Stark's life.
post #122 of 3813
so are we going spoiler free now? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
but yea i just don't know about bran. to give you an idea what ive liked in the books the most so far - the battle of king's landing, i love littlefinger, and i really enjoyed all of jon beyond the wall/jon vs the wildlings at the wall. also brienne and samwell are just AWFUL. seriously-- why?!?! WHY GOD WHY? cersei was so-so, i really liked jaime's perspective.. the whole 'holy shit he killed the king to save the kingdom' revelation especially. tyrion is always great too.
post #123 of 3813
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so are we going spoiler free now?

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but yea i just don't know about bran. to give you an idea what ive liked in the books the most so far - the battle of king's landing, i love littlefinger, and i really enjoyed all of jon beyond the wall/jon vs the wildlings at the wall.

also brienne and samwell are just AWFUL. seriously-- why?!?! WHY GOD WHY? cersei was so-so, i really liked jaime's perspective.. the whole 'holy shit he killed the king to save the kingdom' revelation especially. tyrion is always great too.

It would be the thoughtful thing to do.. lol. But anyways:

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My favorite POVs so far are Jon, Bran, Tyrion, Jaime, and Arya.

I can't stand Sansa and her chapters are generally boring (as an aside, I appreciate Littlefinger but can't stand him), Brienne's chapters are boring, I can't stand Cersei or her chapters. The Iron Islands people are boring (except Euron Crows-Eye is interesting). Dany's chapters were boring to start but get better through the series. Obviously no one likes Sam, but given how his last chapter ended it'll be interesting to see what happens with that.
post #124 of 3813
i really, really hope this series lasts through the battle of king's landing. although HBO better not season 2 rome it.
post #125 of 3813
I've tried to keep everything in tags

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Jon beyond the wall was great. I liked Sam beyond the wall, and his manipulation of the NW, but after they sailed for Braavos I stopped caring. Littlefinger is a very interesting perv, and Jaime is getting better. I want a Dance with Dragons already!
post #126 of 3813
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I'm going to type like an adult for once! I guess.. I don't know, maybe I've aged out of the series to some degree, or maybe it's just how terrible the last book was, but ASOIF has really lost some of its luster to me. What I liked the most was the sense of epicness - the impossibly high Wall, the idea that the NW has existed for thousands of years, and the fact that the whole first book was about the "Game of Thrones" - huge forces moving in opposition to each other that encompassed massive armies. But now.. the books just seemed focus on the individual characters. Which isn't inherently bad, but it is if the characters are fucking boring, which so many of the characters are. Honestly, one of my favorite perspectives was the ship captain.. was that in book 3? The one who served Robert's brother.
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I'm going to type like an adult for once!

I guess.. I don't know, maybe I've aged out of the series to some degree, or maybe it's just how terrible the last book was, but ASOIF has really lost some of its luster to me. What I liked the most was the sense of epicness - the impossibly high Wall, the idea that the NW has existed for thousands of years, and the fact that the whole first book was about the "Game of Thrones" - huge forces moving in opposition to each other that encompassed massive armies.

But now.. the books just seemed focus on the individual characters. Which isn't inherently bad, but it is if the characters are fucking boring, which so many of the characters are. Honestly, one of my favorite perspectives was the ship captain.. was that in book 3? The one who served Robert's brother.

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No, I agree with that part - my interest in the lower couple kingdoms has waned, because lets face it, the war is mostly over. Now, the major war, the one outlined in the introduction, needs to happen. The Prince that was Promised, etc, needs to show up and fight against the forces of the Cold. That's what I meant by returning to "ASOIAF" instead of the "War over who fathered Joeffry and Tommen and Marcella "Baratheon"". Dany, Jon, and Dragons versus the Others.
post #128 of 3813
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The Onion Knight? I thought that was the last book so far (was that 4?). He was cool. Sam's been hit and miss. Some of his stuff is okay. Jaime has become a cool character, and is actually developing, which is nice. I need more Jon and Arya (best character to follow IMO).
post #129 of 3813
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Sadly we're not going to see that in this latest book because IIRC it's occures concurrently with the last one, right?
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Sadly we're not going to see that in this latest book because IIRC it's occures concurrently with the last one, right?

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The was the explanation in the afterward, I believe. I just want the last book out so I can have some closure and bail on the series.
post #131 of 3813
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Sadly we're not going to see that in this latest book because IIRC it's occures concurrently with the last one, right?

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Arya and Jon's POVs will both be in book 5 (A Dance with Dragons). The other POVs will be: Varamyr Sixskins (prologue), Dany, Tyrion, Davos Seaworth (The Onion Knight), Bran, Theon Greyjoy/Reek, Asha Greyjoy, Lady Melisandre, and Cersei.
post #132 of 3813
This series is great. It really takes an emotional toll on you, and that emotion can be found in the Television series as well. I remember when first reading the books just hoping things wold go the other way, and they would never do so. Arya is probably my favorite, and possibly the fan-favorite in general. The Televsion series seems pretty good so far. Casting seems adequate and story seems pretty accurate from what I remember. They could take it a bit slower, but its pace seems fine. I love the detail of environment and costumes. Some shows of these nature seem to cheap out on these aspects.
post #133 of 3813
Indeed, Arya is the best by far. The series as a whole was good but at times was really just a bodice ripper with blood. I read it in my early 30's so that likely influenced my opinion. I really hope he finds a way to tie up the story to some degree, but I don't really see how that will happen. Too many loose ends at this point. HBo version is decent. Not amazing, not crap. I'm not a Homer for the books though, so the shortcomings won't bother me as much. It's nice that they spent some serious dough on it and it's nice that they are staying fairly true to the books. I certainly look forward to the rest of the season. I love the genre.
post #134 of 3813
I'm happy with what I've seen so far. For the second episode I'll give main props to (the actor that plays) Joffrey. What an insufferable little shit.
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You ever read the Sword of Truth books? It's like all he knows how to write is stereotypes. None of the characters have any depth, or surprises. The villains are comically evil, the heroes resolute and dauntless, the loves passionate beyond anything known but! horribly conflicted at the same time! Also his description of combat basically boiled down to "RAHHHHHHHHHHHHH" repeated over and over. I gave up after about seven of them (friend was a big fan and pushed me that far), maybe it evolved since then.
I think I made it to book 7 as well, an unpleasent experience:
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... Terry Goodkind, what can I say. Before you start reading his work Look at the picture that is on the inside of the backcover. Yes that ís the writer himself there. Truly. Now there is a narcistic person who writes about a hero figure who is everything he is by looks and presumebly character, but better. The main character is a bore, but what is realy wrong with the books is the sheer adulation all the other characters feel for him. I remember one part which went along the line of this (can't recall the exact words) "He is so masterful, daring, beautiful commanding, muscled, powerful, intelligent..." I don't know how to go on. Goodkind could! Had to sell them and felt almost as good as when I tore Ayn Rand's Atlas shrugged in half to protect further generations from that drivel...
post #135 of 3813
I refuse to read the Sword of Truth. I still think the best contemporary fantasy series is "The Monarchies of God"... really, really good. I keep suggesting it in all the fantasy threads but nobody has ever read it/picks it up. Anyway, I finally got around to watching the second episode. Some thoughts: The dire wolves look awful. WTF? Maybe it's because they're supposed to be still young, but they just look big dorky looking huskies... where's the ferocious terrifying gigantic rampaging wolves? Joffrey is basically Draco Malfoy. Tyrion's dialogue has been awful. He doesn't come off as intelligent or cunning.. just.. stilted? I like Jon.
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