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Can someone who has read a lot of fantasy give me a "recommended if you like" for the Ice and Fire series? I haven't really read much fantasy other than this and Tolkien. I like a lot of stuff that has fantasy elements, like Neal Stephenson, China Mielville and Neil Gaiman, but right now I'm itching for some more sword fighting goodness, but something earthy like Martin.

I was always fond of Terry Brooks' Shannara series, but, that was when I was like 13.
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But Riftwar Saga is not the same type of fantasy as A Song of Ice and Fire, which I believe is what he was looking for. I'm a big fantasy guy, but I can't think of any series that are as realistic, gritty, and mostly eschew the use of magic like GRRM's series does.

Yeah basically. I might go check out some of these others anyway, though. Thanks guys.
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Originally Posted by munchausen View Post

Can someone who has read a lot of fantasy give me a "recommended if you like" for the Ice and Fire series? I haven't really read much fantasy other than this and Tolkien. I like a lot of stuff that has fantasy elements, like Neal Stephenson, China Mielville and Neil Gaiman, but right now I'm itching for some more sword fighting goodness, but something earthy like Martin.

The Monarchies of God series by Paul Kearney was great. I read it after finishing a dance with dragons (on someone's recommendation here) and it was great. It was originally published as 5 books but is currently sold as a 2 book version with 1-2 in the first volume and 3-5 in the second (and each volume is probably still shorter than one GoT book). I really enjoyed it a lot and the books were available dirt cheap from amazon's used section.

The Dragonlance Chronicles Trilogy by Weis and Hickman (there is also a 4th book that sort of follows up the trilogy from a later point in time). I've read the full trilogy at least twice when I was younger and while I have fond memories of it, I don't really recall specifics but I think it would still hold strong (amazon reviews of the first book look good). Don't be put off by the fact that it is tied to D&D...if anything I feel that having to live within a set of "rules" prevents the fantasy author from just dreaming up some stupid magical solution when they write themselves into a corner.
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The Monarchies of God series by Paul Kearney was great. I read it after finishing a dance with dragons (on someone's recommendation here) and it was great. It was originally published as 5 books but is currently sold as a 2 book version with 1-2 in the first volume and 3-5 in the second (and each volume is probably still shorter than one GoT book). I really enjoyed it a lot and the books were available dirt cheap from amazon's used section.
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I just read a synopsis of this and it sounds great. Thanks.
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But Riftwar Saga is not the same type of fantasy as A Song of Ice and Fire, which I believe is what he was looking for. I'm a big fantasy guy, but I can't think of any series that are as realistic, gritty, and mostly eschew the use of magic like GRRM's series does.

Matthew W. Stover's series : Heroes die, Blade of Tyshalle, Caine Black knife and as of yet unread by me Caine's law is most of that.
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The Dragonlance Chronicles Trilogy by Weis and Hickman .

I actually think the sequel they wrote, Dragonlance Legends, is the stronger trilogy, but I don't think I'd put either of them on the same level as A Song of Ice and Fire.



Terry Brooks' Shannara series is decent, but I remember feeling like the plots from each book being very repetitive and formulaic heroes journey. I actually prefer his Magic Kingdom for Sale/Sold series.

How about Ursula K LeGuinn's The wizard of earthsea series?
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LOL @ the Dragonlance rec. Not in the same league as Song of Ice and Fire. The Forgotten Realms Drizzt books are 10x as good as Dragonlance, and even those don't hold a candle to ASOIAF. For the most part, everything's black and white, good vs. evil, very simplistic and reliant and fantasy tropes.
post #1163 of 4901
sorry to derail the nerdbookathon, my bad. wink.gif

i just watched episode 3. liked it very much.

i fucking hate cersei, and enjoyed seeing her upset so many times. fucking bitch whore.

tyrions scheme was hilarious.

renly bagheytheon is such a loser, and his boy toy loras is a bitch. lol. his wife is something else tho, yowza. i love how she set renly up.

balon and crew just strike me as a bunch of brooding, selfish idiots. i was bummed out about theon burning the letter, i wonder how their war on the north will play out.

bummer about yoren. also cusrious to see what happens to aray.

im glad i havent read the books and have nothing to compare the show too. tho based on what ive read here, i hope the series is not as drawn out as the books apparently are. that would suck.
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I actually think the sequel they wrote, Dragonlance Legends, is the stronger trilogy, but I don't think I'd put either of them on the same level as A Song of Ice and Fire.
Terry Brooks' Shannara series is decent, but I remember feeling like the plots from each book being very repetitive and formulaic heroes journey. I actually prefer his Magic Kingdom for Sale/Sold series.
How about Ursula K LeGuinn's The wizard of earthsea series?

Magic Kingdom was WAY better yes, but not exactly high fantasy. Still really funny and highly recommended though.

The Shannara Series (at least the first 3 books, but hey, at least they are all self contained stories) was a bit formulaic starting out, but Wishsong of Shannara was pretty unique.

I always considered the Sword of Shannara to be a better version of LOTR heh.
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But Riftwar Saga is not the same type of fantasy as A Song of Ice and Fire, which I believe is what he was looking for. I'm a big fantasy guy, but I can't think of any series that are as realistic, gritty, and mostly eschew the use of magic like GRRM's series does.

I think the Kearney series I mentioned does this for the most part. There is magic and there are magic practitioners but many storylines don't touch it at all, just like GoT does have actual dragons and sharper than sharp valyrian steel and rising from the dead northern beings but the storylines we are currently seeing in the show in Kings Landing or the Iron Islands are completely removed from any sort of magic.
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Also look at The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant, the Unbeliever  by Stephen R. Donaldson.

 

Protagonist is a bitter and hate-filled leper who gets transported to another land where he is looked upon as the savior. First thing he does is rape an innocent girl.

 

lefty

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Magic Kingdom was WAY better yes, but not exactly high fantasy. Still really funny and highly recommended though.
The Shannara Series (at least the first 3 books, but hey, at least they are all self contained stories) was a bit formulaic starting out, but Wishsong of Shannara was pretty unique.
I always considered the Sword of Shannara to be a better version of LOTR heh.

I'm not even a big LoTR fan, but that's blasphemy. More accurate to say Shannara series is LoTR-lite. Never been a fan of Terry Brooks except for his Magic Kingdom series, and even that I believe could have been done better by a different author.
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LOTR was just *boring* to me
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yeah the passages describing the valleys and what not got annoying and i skimmed through those but the whole thing is so damn good

going to see if i can get monarchies of god on kindle
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fuck Joffery.
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