Let's not talk about... - Page 2

The hendrix of yesteryear The hendrix of the future the hendrix is dead, long live the hendrix. probably because you stopped eating those "wheat shits" or whatever that cereal is in the background.

We definitely should talk about NCB more. You down with NCB yeah you know me Like I said above, 16/20

Thank you for this excellent contribution, Synthese.
I was remiss in not making that much talked about thread.

So basically the idea is, what do we do when we want to wear something that is neither a button-down (button-up, side-button, fencing placket) shirt, but neither a short-sleeved tee-shirt? Let's knuckle down and discuss options that are somewhere in between. A button-down is in many cases too structured and constricting to be truly enjoyable, plus it is just the obvious go-to choice. It lacks in the creative freedom that women have in wearing tops. A tee-shirt, on the other hand, is an excess of sloppiness, and besides that there aren't very many good ones.

So what is one to do? Tanktops? I'm all for it. Henleys? Also interesting. What are some alternatives that fit this middle ground? Be specific, not general! I had a conversation with BB1 about elegantly-draping long-sleeve tees by Lad Musician. Robert Geller Seconds also seems to be an interesting concept.

Something that is knit or made out of jersey makes for a much more anatomical fit. I'm strongly in favor of wearing knitwear "naked" -- that is, with nothing else underneath save maybe a discreet undershirt for hygienic reasons.

I dunno, take it from here. I briefly owned an Agnes B silk henley in a wheat color that was pretty stellar.

In sum, throw off the shackles of button-down straitjackets!!

I also wanted to add that The Choosy Beggar has really gone downhill. Or has my taste changed? It seems to be littered with generic NYC Steven Alan style stuff and pseudo-advertisements these days. It used to really wet my whistle when he'd post missives about the Ervell sample sales and so on I dunno, don't you think there's something to be said for aging gracefully? You get your kicks in when young and pop out in all directions, try some blue DBSS sneakers, etc., etc., but there is intense beauty in restraint. Being inscrutably "shibui" can approach levels of sublimity. The thing about the full-on MC steeze guys is that they are unaware how much they seem like doddering old codgers in their bowties and tweeds and such. You can transition to what is formally known as "menswear" (i.e., not jeans and sneakers) while injecting a spirit of playfulness. Don't you think that in that sense, Schneider, Petrov, Marni, and Kim Jones' redo of Dunhill play to that? (Although per the lookbook styling, Marni is more of a late 20s cosmopolitan playboy thing -- they should do away with the extreme tapered pants, imo). Anyway, isn't this what our forum deity, berlin report, does when he wears a playfully colorful shirt and a terrier lapel pin? You can be anchored in menswear and still be playful without needing to run in the direction of rhinestone-encrusted hi-tops. At the very least, everyday people on the street will relate to you more. Although Petrov seems to like to throw the baby out with the bathwater and go from ineffably charming dandelion-plucking Spring/Summer style to leather zips Acne style in Fall. Someone on SuFu I was talking to had something to say about this. I will find his message later, but he said that Petrov is at his best when he is "showing you his blue/orange herringbone penis." I think that young SWD thing is about being inscrutable (not understatedly so, but unique and without precedent) and at the same time brash. When you transition, you fundamentally want to have pleasant experiences with other people, so doing something that is a hot fireball of uniqueness may seem to lack, you know, cultural currency. Kunk would disagree, though.