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Originally Posted by
Nil 
I honestly don't think I've heard the entire thing before. I checked out Operation Doomsday and one or two of those he released under different aliases after that one and didn't like any of them. I tend to just skip over anything when I hear his monotone drone on the track these days. Is Madvillainy significantly better than those other ones?
I'll concede ignorance and say I'm only vaguely familiar with Doom's early solo work. You wouldn't like Madvillainy based on what limited stuff I've heard from that area of his discography, though. The album, as a whole, has this unsettling aura to it thanks to the production. But Doom's still sporting the same syncopated flow.
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Originally Posted by
driveslowk 
WTF is this Odd Future/Tyler The Creator hype? I don't get it.
I'll take a stab at it, even though I'm a relative outsider by comparison to their loyal following.
1) Tyler is literally a product of the Hypebeast forums. He was a regular on the forums in the earliest stages of his music career. If you dig around, it's interesting to find some old threads he started about upcoming shows that got no responses. Compare that to the insane OF thread I mentioned earlier and it's kind of crazy how Tyler career has ballooned.
I think there's some homegrown loyalty to Tyler and OF because of his roots on HB forums. One of their own is literally living out a dream I'd wager a fair amount of them have, so you can bet they're going to be fervent in their support of OF collective.
2) Odd Future, and more specifically, Tyler, is like this tangible representation of everyone's most morally deplorable traits. He makes vintage Eminem sound polite. He makes Ol' Dirty Bastard seem tame. He says the things some of us may have thought, but won't say, plus a lot of things many of us would NEVER say.
It's all a bit overwhelming if taken at face value, but at the same time, it's almost refreshing that someone isn't trying to be pop and safe. A glimpse of Tyler's Twitter feed shows he isn't opposed to getting rich or becoming famous. It's just that he wants to do it on his terms, and so far, it appears he's on the right track.
3) The kids can actually rap. The whole outfit would seem a lot more of a novelty if it didn't come packaged within some genuinely clever lyrics. This is the front where I have trouble buying into the Lil B hype. Because even though he's shown he's a capable rapper, the bulk of his massive song catalog sounds like part of a practical joke that just won't end.
4) The kids can make their own beats. Tyler prides himself on rapping, producing and directing his own videos. I'm a big fan of sampling, but I'm impressed that he's compiled a nice collection of tracks that rely on no source sampling.
Even with all this considered, some of OF's and Lil B's more dedicated fans grate on me a bit.