let's go with standard US winter... Some snow, gets to about 3 degrees on a bad day? See, that's why I want to avoid recommending something other than a blobby winter boot, salt and the generally shit winter here ate my HL boots... Never forget. We got about 5 feet last year, if not more counting the huge drifts, and i think the lowest we got was -40 with a -65 windchill or something.