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post #661 of 4004
Whiskey comfort craftsman has arrived. 5 weeks total from the nyc store. They were actually very nice about everything.
post #662 of 4004
Since this thread has been quiet thought i post a question. What are folks using as trees for their RM williams. On a related note, are the williams branded trees, specifically "lasted" for thier boots or are generic's something to consider.
post #663 of 4004
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Originally Posted by kbuzz View Post
Since this thread has been quiet thought i post a question. What are folks using as trees for their RM williams. On a related note, are the williams branded trees, specifically "lasted" for thier boots or are generic's something to consider.

My experience is that they don't really fit the width at all. I moved them into another pair of boots and bought more substantial trees for my RMWs.

Hope that helps.

lefty
post #664 of 4004
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What are folks using as trees for their RM williams.
Simple Nordstrom branded shoe trees are working fine for mine.
post #665 of 4004
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Originally Posted by kbuzz View Post
Since this thread has been quiet thought i post a question. What are folks using as trees for their RM williams. On a related note, are the williams branded trees, specifically "lasted" for thier boots or are generic's something to consider.

My experience with the RMW boot trees was that, at the size recommended to me in the store at least, they did not fill the boot adequately. They are generic boot trees that seem to be made by Rochester or Woodlore; they certainly are not lasted or otherwise specifically designed for RMW boots. I've been using regular shoe trees. I sold my boot trees here on the forum to someone with smaller feet; I don't know if he's found them better suited than I did.
post #666 of 4004
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Originally Posted by grimslade View Post
My experience with the RMW boot trees was that, at the size recommended to me in the store at least, they did not fill the boot adequately. They are generic boot trees that seem to be made by Rochester or Woodlore; they certainly are not lasted or otherwise specifically designed for RMW boots. I've been using regular shoe trees. I sold my boot trees here on the forum to someone with smaller feet; I don't know if he's found them better suited than I did.

That was me. They're identical to a pair of boot trees that I got from grapevinehill except IIRC the RMW ones have a leather loop at the heel to help pull the tree out. I've found that boot trees are better than shoe trees for me with the way boots crease at the bottom of the vamp from my feet.
post #667 of 4004
I like the width of the lip on the goodyear welted John Lobbs. I know there was some discussion about the forum special's lack of lip...I think I have a preference of just a bit more lip, like the Lobbs.

Would you guys say the regular craftsman has too much?
post #668 of 4004
Thread Starter 
I have just updated the Forum Special sizing guide once again. I have radically simplified and improved it. The result should be a slightly better fitting and more elegant boot. I am increasingly coming to the conclusion that B529 in narrower fits is one of the most elegant round toed RTW lasts around. The new guide will result in a boot a fraction sleeker than before.
post #669 of 4004
I'm considering ordering a pair of the black forum specials, but I'm interested in people's opinions on wearing them with suits. Earlier in the thread people were talking about it being a bit odd, but I'm wondering if the sleeker nature of the "specials" changes that significantly. I don't wear a suit at work (I'm a software developer and get asked where I'm interviewing if I ever wear wool trousers), so this would mostly be for evenings out at the theater, symphony, etc.
post #670 of 4004
I don't have forum special models, just regular craftsmen. I wear them with suits. FWIW.
post #671 of 4004
Just trying to finalize details for making an order with nungar. If my craftsman size is 7.5G, and I want the french veal calf "forum special", I would order a size 8E? Thank you.
post #672 of 4004
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Leonard Leroy View Post
Just trying to finalize details for making an order with nungar. If my craftsman size is 7.5G, and I want the french veal calf "forum special", I would order a size 8E? Thank you.

If you read the sizing guide again it will guide you to order an 8.5E. I re-read my own post searching for errors, and to my relief I had written up a WHOLE size and down two widths. I was worried you had uncovered an error in my guide for a moment. Phew!

However, if you ordered 8F the fit would be identical due the complexities of the UK sizing system they use. If you really wanted something longer and sleeker 9D would also work. It also be shorter than you think it will be, as the old fashioned UK system RMW uses only introduces increases in lengths when you go up a whole size (half sizes just run a width wider). I left these options out as it just gets way too complicated.
post #673 of 4004
Ouch, my head hurts.
post #674 of 4004
Thread Starter 
OK let's keep it simple: 8.5E If you think your head hurts just think of the amount of time and thought which went into putting my whole guide together.
post #675 of 4004
"...as the old fashioned UK system RMW uses only introduces increases in lengths when you go up a whole size (half sizes just run a width wider)... I left these options out as it just gets way too complicated"

This piece of information would have saved me ~$300 after I threw away my size 11s which were just a little too short and ordered 11.5s thinking they would be a perfect fit but ended up still hurting my toes...

I shall never again order a shoe I have not tried on.
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