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Hey mathyoo,

 

That's so disappointing! It's anyones guess what is happening with the business at the moment. I know alot of my Australian friends were concerned a few years ago when the business sold, and have seen the little (and big) changes happening, all-the-while having faith the product will still(and always) be hand made in Australia to a high quality.

 

There has been a website and branding update everyone will have noticed, as their brand plan, presumably, starts to kick in. The increase in price of the Signature Craftsman (by 30% - a figure not really justifiable with the usual economic and exchange rate excuses) is disappointing given there is no additional value in those boots (watch-guys would notice wristwatches sometimes getting priced differently, with extras like straps/tools are included to 'validate' a price increase). Seemingly nothing additional is included with the Signature Craftsman despite the hefty $ increase.

 

I'll try and visit my local RM Williams shop in the next week or so, and see if they know of any changes to MTO policy. Perhaps it's RM looking to only offer MTO themselves and not through the resellers?? I hope they don't start to brand MTO as some sort of high end 'bespoke' option, instead of what it should be - simply guys and girls having access to boots that FIT. The other thing I'll check is there instore fabric swatch booklet - that should give some indication of changes in MTO options also.

 

I'll let you know.

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Originally Posted by Snorpley View Post

Hey mathyoo,

That's so disappointing! It's anyones guess what is happening with the business at the moment. I know alot of my Australian friends were concerned a few years ago when the business sold, and have seen the little (and big) changes happening, all-the-while having faith the product will still(and always) be hand made in Australia to a high quality.

There has been a website and branding update everyone will have noticed, as their brand plan, presumably, starts to kick in. The increase in price of the Signature Craftsman (by 30% - a figure not really justifiable with the usual economic and exchange rate excuses) is disappointing given there is no additional value in those boots (watch-guys would notice wristwatches sometimes getting priced differently, with extras like straps/tools are included to 'validate' a price increase). Seemingly nothing additional is included with the Signature Craftsman despite the hefty $ increase.

I'll try and visit my local RM Williams shop in the next week or so, and see if they know of any changes to MTO policy. Perhaps it's RM looking to only offer MTO themselves and not through the resellers?? I hope they don't start to brand MTO as some sort of high end 'bespoke' option, instead of what it should be - simply guys and girls having access to boots that FIT. The other thing I'll check is there instore fabric swatch booklet - that should give some indication of changes in MTO options also.

I'll let you know.

Everything you said was true, and I can also confirm that MTO will be stopped for sure from next week. I have talked to 2 store managers in Sydney, and was told today would be the last day to send your MTO through. RMW is changing its marketing strategy, previous was more to focus on local, but since the new owner LVMH bought the business 2 years ago, they are now looking to expand RMW to the global, and the first thing is to increase all of core products price and make them as luxury items, same as LV leather goods.
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RM Williams customer service got back to me. MTO as it was known is finished. It will be replaced by year end with what they will indeed call bespoke, limited to the Craftsman and Adelaide, and then seasonal versions of other boots. Really disappointing. It sounds like an effort to make the brand luxury. 

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Originally Posted by mathyoo View Post

RM Williams customer service got back to me. MTO as it was known is finished. It will be replaced by year end with what they will indeed call bespoke, limited to the Craftsman and Adelaide, and then seasonal versions of other boots. Really disappointing. It sounds like an effort to make the brand luxury. 

Reduce the service, call it "bespoke" and charge a shitload more for it - looks like I've bought my last pair of RMW.

RIP.
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Any news on what will happen to re-soleing shoes etc?

 

I need to get 2 out of 3 pairs re-soled and downsized slightly.  Hope it doesn't quadruple in cost or anything.

 

I had budgeted to buy RM Williams Signature Craftsman in Black in Feb, this completely screws me over.

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I went into an RM store here in Sydney today and the MTO service still seems in operation, unless the news hadn't filtered to all of their staff yet? Bizarre.
I hoping I haven't bought my last pair of these bad boys, but I'm not terribly confident in the future of these guys
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Thanks for your comments accidentprone and Snorpley. I'm in Australia (Perth) as well so I always wear thin socks.

I still haven't found a definitive answer to whether the toe boxes are different between the Craftsman and Macquarie - I've trawled through the entire internet. I called RM Williams themselves and they said the Macquarie is actually thinner (narrow-medium toe) as it's advertised, though I didn't have that much confidence in the rep I spoke too. Here are some images I've found in an earlier post and it's hard to tell - the Macquarie does look like it could be thinner but it's hard to tell.





I think I'm at the point where I'm happy to deal with the tightness when I tried the 5.5F Craftsman - if it softens up even a little I think it might be okay. Even if they fit the same I might get the Macquarie - but I need to be confident that the toebox isn't tighter. I have pretty small feet, it's the bane of my existence! I can also get the 5.5F Craftsman for $295 we have a factory outlet here in Perth, so it's either that or a MTO Macquarie 5.5F me thinks

If anything the Macquarie has more room in the toe than the Craftsman - width is about the same internally but there is more height in the Macquarie; the Craftsman has a lower profile at the toe than all the the round toe models. Hope that helps.
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Agreed! Cheers

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What the flaming heck is this?

Made in Romania, blake stitched, "skinny" boots that cost more than the made in Australia boots. Reginald Murray would be spinning in his grave.
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Why does the tag still say "5 PERCY ST PROSPECT SA"? It should be "INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX #3459 BUMFUCK ROMANIA".

Talk about brand dilution. Then again, the new chairman is an economist... /thread. RM Williams will go the way of every other great Australian icon taken over by the accountants. Brb waiting for news about layoffs and eventual closure of SA factory, it's just a matter of time now once the private equity funds suck the life out of what's left of the business.
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Originally Posted by LordPave View Post

Any news on what will happen to re-soleing shoes etc?

I need to get 2 out of 3 pairs re-soled and downsized slightly.  Hope it doesn't quadruple in cost or anything.

I had budgeted to buy RM Williams Signature Craftsman in Black in Feb, this completely screws me over.

If you need to re-sole, then do it quick, as re-sole price will also be increased as well. I have seen it from $99.95 3 years ago to $150 now, and soon it might increase to $180.
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I finally received my first pair of RM Williams Comfort Craftsman today and I couldn't be happier, the fit is perfect.

I ordered a size 9.5G and for any lurkers looking for sizing, in AE Mcallisters I wear 10.5D, Ferragamo Dress Shoes 10.5D, Cole Haan (anything) 10.5D, John Varvatos Dress Shoes 10D, Mezlan Dress shoes 10.5D. The fit is fantastic in slim dress socks as well as thicker dress socks/crew socks. No rubbing, nice, snug (not tight in any place) fit on initial test and walking around a bit. The elastic around the ankle is not loose at all either, I am 6'1"(185cm) and 155lb (70kg) with skinny legs for reference. I got a great price from australiangear.com (less than 300usd shipped), and it took less than a week for the boots to get to me in the states once the factory had delivered the product to the vendor.

Hope this helps anyone out there looking to buy.

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My first RMW and first time wearing the kangaroo craftsman.

 

Man i am really afraid when pulling both tabs, takes some getting used to, right angle and all.

Keep feeling i am pulling too hard and  the tabs might snap LOL!

 

Taking it off is another thing all together.

 

But....its the most comfortable shoe i have out of the box by far.

 

Glad i bought these in late Dec before the price increase and all. 

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Hey takashi78 and billafin, congrats on the boots! Awesome news about the fit.

 

takashi78, I know the feeling about the tugs. They'll take the strain though. Believe in their strength LOL.

 

S.

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Originally Posted by richardwallace View Post

What the flaming heck is this?

Made in Romania, blake stitched, "skinny" boots that cost more than the made in Australia boots. Reginald Murray would be spinning in his grave.



Has anyone actually seen these being sold anywhere? I can only see on ebay. If they are indeed real, only thing I can think of is maybe this is what will be sold to shitty wholesalers (think touristy australian shitholes), maybe some department stores.

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Is there any boot company comparable with what RMW used to be?

I have two lovely pairs of real RMW (not LVMH) that will need maintenance, the screw-sole deal that was captured so well in this thread. But no point if they become plastic garbage.

Australian would be nice but perhaps there's another country that values its national treasures.
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