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I love the Sandstone color. Haven't seen too many of those anywhere. I'm might order a pair of those in addition to Dark Tan in either Veal Calf or Kangaroo.

My only worry with having 6 pairs of Chelsea boots is the elastic gore becoming too loose with wear. Hopefully the shoe repair places in Texas know how to fix those because it's not worth the shipping to send them back to Australia for repair.
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Originally Posted by proteinnerd View Post

Here are all of mine so far (Pair of Rigger in the Vesta Brown on the way biggrin.gif )

Left to right Craftsman in Yearling Leather Sandstone, Gardener Oil Kip Leather Dark Tan (almost 20 years old now!), Comfort Craftsman Yearling Leather Chestnut and then the same in Black.

Hope that helps
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Hi guys,

 

I'm new to the forum - what a great source of information!

 

I recently pulled the trigger on black RM Williams Craftsman. I liked them right out of the box but a bit too late I noticed that they are probably a bit too short. After reading this thread I thought the RMs are wide-fitting and of regular length, but I find the opposite to be true - they run rather short and narrow.

I usually wear UK size of 7.5-8.5 and got the Craftsman in 8G because I wear 8 F UK in Loakes. The fit is quite snug and I have only smth like 5mm (max) room in front of my big toe. I did try an 8.5G, which felt way too big with a bit of heel slippage, which is why I kept the smaller size.

 

I've worn the shoes indoors quite a bit now and they don't really cause me any problems but sometimes I notice that I ever so slightly touch the toe cap with my big toe. I'm worried that this will cause me problems in the long run, since the usual recommendation is to have at least an inch of space in front and all sorts of negative effects are associated with it. I think the ball of my foot is approximately in the right place - very confusing to me. Did anyone experience smth similar? Whats your recommendation? Sell 'em or keep wearing em?

 

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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I've worn through one of the toe caps with m big toe. A bump has appeared in the leather where the toe comes up. Looks like it will damage the leather if I don't get it fixed.

 

Only had them for just over a year but walked a lot in them. Soles maybe half worn.

 

Anyone had this happen? I'm thinking of sending them back to the factory for a look to see if it is fair wear and tear or a problem. Seems a bit short in life to be wearing out after all of the stories of the boots lasting 10+ years.

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Originally Posted by mugle View Post

Hi,
I just have a small question about sizing. If i have understod correctly half sizes only increase in width and not in length. Does that mean that 9H and 9.5G will fit the same?


NO! Half sizes do increase in length! But the two sizes you quote may have similar widths. They will fit very differently depending on the overall balance between width and length, and how your foots is balanced between width and length and the lines in between

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Originally Posted by daizawaguy View Post


NO! Half sizes do increase in length! But the two sizes you quote may have similar widths. They will fit very differently depending on the overall balance between width and length, and how your foots is balanced between width and length and the lines in between

Thanks for the response!
The reason i was asking was that a friend of mine moved to Sydney and offered to send me a pair of boots for quite a low price, but none of the retailers in Norway Stock H width to try on.
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Thanks for the response!
The reason i was asking was that a friend of mine moved to Sydney and offered to send me a pair of boots for quite a low price, but none of the retailers in Norway Stock H width to try on.


It`s a tricky balance. I found the 9H too wide and short and eventually settled on a 9 1/2 G, even though I fit into a UK 8 1/2 shoe (don't have any boots though in UK sizes). I`ve found the theory and practice to be a bit different as it depends where your foot will settle and spread in the boot. You can safely go up a half size or full size by guessing if you have tried a boot on as a reference, but just guessing from a shoe size for example can be dangerous IMO, The H fitting I`ve found is wide. Up a half size and down in width will give a sleeker fit, but again as I say it depends where your foot settles. G in RM is an E in UK is my experience, and the H is a UK F. And from a UK shoe I`m a full size up, but I haven't heard many people claim this, so I may be unique, I dont have UK boots though, only Whites, where I`m a 9D.

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First time post here.  Thanks for all of yours.

 

I've read about as much of this thread that I can but have had some difficulties discerning colors in certain pictures.  Unfortunately, the NYC store closed, so I will be ordering online and hoping for the best.  

 

I'm trying to decide on my next RMW purchase (my first was a Gardener in dark brown). The next pair will be used primarily to wear to the casual office or dinner out in suburbia/NYC with dress pants, chinos, or, perhaps, nice jeans. I would also like them to be compatible with a navy suit for court. They should probably have leather soles for when I wear them with a suit, but I suppose the comfort/composite soles could work.  This is a tough decision, and any advice is appreciated.

 

I'm presently considering a number of Craftsman or Comfort Craftsman options, and am open to the Yearling or French Veal Calf.

The colors are very difficult to assess, but I think the Chestnut, dark tan, or rum colors would work.  I definitely want them to be lighter in color than my dark brown Gardeners, shinier, and otherwise different enough to justify the purchase.

 

 

Regarding the question/complaint about squeaky RMW Gardener or those with similar soles:  one of mine squeaked for the first few months of wearing them, but that went away. I absolutely love my dark brown Gardeners, which I wear mostly with jeans or chinos in a casual office.  I've never received so many compliments on a pair of shoes.  They are very comfortable, and I don't have to worry about them in rain, snow, salted walks, etc. The toes have suffered some lightening and one nick from a bar stool, but I plan to order some Saddle Dressing, as recommended. 

 

THANKS in advance!

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Originally Posted by SartorialSailor View Post

First time post here.  Thanks for all of yours.

I've read about as much of this thread that I can but have had some difficulties discerning colors in certain pictures.  Unfortunately, the NYC store closed, so I will be ordering online and hoping for the best.  

I'm trying to decide on my next RMW purchase (my first was a Gardener in dark brown). The next pair will be used primarily to wear to the casual office or dinner out in suburbia/NYC with dress pants, chinos, or, perhaps, nice jeans. I would also like them to be compatible with a navy suit for court. They should probably have leather soles for when I wear them with a suit, but I suppose the comfort/composite soles could work.  This is a tough decision, and any advice is appreciated.

I'm presently considering a number of Craftsman or Comfort Craftsman options, and am open to the Yearling or French Veal Calf.
The colors are very difficult to assess, but I think the Chestnut, dark tan, or rum colors would work.  I definitely want them to be lighter in color than my dark brown Gardeners, shinier, and otherwise different enough to justify the purchase.


Regarding the question/complaint about squeaky RMW Gardener or those with similar soles:  one of mine squeaked for the first few months of wearing them, but that went away. I absolutely love my dark brown Gardeners, which I wear mostly with jeans or chinos in a casual office.  I've never received so many compliments on a pair of shoes.  They are very comfortable, and I don't have to worry about them in rain, snow, salted walks, etc. The toes have suffered some lightening and one nick from a bar stool, but I plan to order some Saddle Dressing, as recommended. 

THANKS in advance!

I think Chestnut in Yearling or French Veal Calf is your best choice, as I've found out that Chestnut becomes little lighter recently from RMW manufactory.
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Thanks for your response.  I've decided on Comfort Craftsman, Yearling, in either Dark Tan or Chestnut.  I haven't been able to find a picture of Chestnut Yearling (any model) next to a "brown" Gardener.  I'm hoping it's lighter in color and capable being shined up for suit wearing so that it's quite a bit different. 

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 I think Chestnut in Yearling or French Veal Calf is your best choice, as I've found out that Chestnut becomes little lighter recently from RMW manufactory.
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Originally Posted by SartorialSailor View Post

Thanks for your response.  I've decided on Comfort Craftsman, Yearling, in either Dark Tan or Chestnut.  I haven't been able to find a picture of Chestnut Yearling (any model) next to a "brown" Gardener.  I'm hoping it's lighter in color and capable being shined up for suit wearing so that it's quite a bit different. 

In my opinion, if you are going to wear it with suit, then black is the best shot. Although a lot of people here also recognise Chestnut that has no issues at all, I still prefer black. However if you are going to wear it with Jeans/Chinos more often, then Chestnut.
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Thank you very much.  I already have black dress shoes (AE) for suits, but I'd like a pair of brown boots that can be worn with a navy suit.

 

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Originally Posted by wxxnxs View Post


In my opinion, if you are going to wear it with suit, then black is the best shot. Although a lot of people here also recognise Chestnut that has no issues at all, I still prefer black. However if you are going to wear it with Jeans/Chinos more often, then Chestnut.
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Ok, My Riggers in Vesta brown arrived so I thought I'd post a new pic with the expanded colour comparison.

Again left to right Yearling Sandstone, Oil Kip Dark Tan, Vesta Brown, Yearling Chestnut, Yearling Black.

 

I'm surprised how similar the dark tan and brown are...tbh, it looks pretty much the same to me, it might just be just age and different leather type that accounts for the slight difference rather than an officially different colour? then again, I'm not a colour expert. 

 

Hope this helps someone

 

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Looking to buy my first pair of chelseas and after a bit of researching decided upon RMW. Seeing as how I'm in the US , I don't believe there's a place I can try these on and was wonder if someone can help me out with sizing. I am pretty standard at an 8D in Allen Edmonds 5 last and 8.5D in the 1 last(slightly narrower than the 5). I was looking at a pair of comfort craftsman likely in chestnut but also looking at rum. What size do you guys suggest I should get?
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If it helps at all, I'm a 9G in R.M Williams and a 9.5D in AE Strand.

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I'm trying to decipher the codes that RM uses for its boots. I ordered two pairs recently, and almost have it figured out. Any clues on the rest?

Pair 1: MT0 DD8625 B529S.66TEMZ10

MTO = Made To Order
DD8625 = ?
B529 = Last: Turnout last
S = ?
66 = Color: dusty brown suede
T = Heel: women’s tapered flat
E = Width: extra narrow
M = Toe: medium
Z = ?
10 = Size: 10

Details not accounted for in code: Natural Edge Stain, Plain Leather Welt (W), Brown Elastic Color

Pair 2: MTO DD8625 B522S.66BENY06

MTO = Made To Order
DD8625 = ?
B522 = Last: Yearling last
S = ?
66 = Color: dusty brown suede
B = Heel: block
E = Width: extra narrow
N= Toe: narrow medium
Y = ?
06 = Size: 6

Details not accounted for in code: Natural Edge Stain, Screwed Leather Sole (S), Brown Elastic Color
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