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post #3406 of 3794
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Originally Posted by Dr P00b View Post
 

Havingaravup the stitches don't seem to be worn down at all. I will take a pic but I won't be able to until next week. On holidays and I didn't bring them with me. I only needed the double pluggas (thongs) and the golf spikes. :)

 

That would be great! Thanks so much. Looking forward to it.

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I have to come out right now and say I absolutely love my RMs. This weekend I wore them to an event that would require me to walk a bit, and stand for a long time. The evening degraded into a bar, that turned sort of into a night club, where they were stepped on, and had booze spilled onto them, and were generally put under abuse. I was really worried about the, and on the train home wiped them down. When i saw them in proper light they looked great. I polished them up the next day, even though it was unnecessary. No other shoes I have would have walked away unscathed. I'm sold. 

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There you go! Another convert. Great!! smile.gif
post #3409 of 3794
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Originally Posted by havingaraveup View Post
 

 they were stepped on, and had booze spilled onto them, and were generally put under abuse.

Wait until you get a suede pair, you'll be freaking out when that happens! 

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OK here are the sole pics to show the wear.

 

 

Holding up well after minimum 5km per day on concrete footpaths.

 

Close up showing stitching with minimal wear.

post #3411 of 3794
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Originally Posted by Dr P00b View Post


Close up showing stitching with minimal wear.


As has been mentioned recently, the stitching is not the only thing holding the soles on, as they will also be glued on.
post #3412 of 3794
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Originally Posted by richardwallace View Post


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i have the yard boot in distressed black:

I'm having a horrible experience right now with a factory resole.

I went into the store to pickup my favourite boots that I have loved for 3 years and was horrified to see that they have totally stuffed them up.

The workmanship on the new soles is horrible. (will post photos up when I get them back)

My boots are made from their "distressed" leather. They were a grey color and had developed beautiful brown undertones. I wish I had some good photos but the leather had aged so beautifully, they were the perfect pair of casual boots for me. They didn't look like dress boots and they didn't look like work boots. They have destroyed them by polishing them black!! I even gave them an instruction sheet when I handed my boots in asking them to please not clean or polish the uppers. They look awful and I doubt they will ever be the same as they were.

They are back at the factory in Adelaide and I have spoken to the head of repairs. He is apologetic and they are going to do their best to fix them (wash off the polish??) but it doesn't look good for my boots. (The level of care and pride in workmanship that I expected is just not there. I got the impression that they don't care whether their boots are beautiful or not and that all black leathers are pretty much the same to them. I guess these are factory workers from a fairly "rural" city and any of the discussions about aesthetics here on styleforum would be completely foreign to them - even to the managers there)

I'll provide photos and more info when I get the boots back. (My boots have the goodyear welted and screwed soles and I spoke to head of repairs about screwed soles and the machines they use to make them. I'll provide some more details later, but I'd strongly recommend that people not risk getting a factory resole done, especially if you have screwed soles. Just topy your boots).

Edited by richardwallace - 10/3/13 at 4:30pm
post #3413 of 3794
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Originally Posted by Dr P00b View Post
 

OK here are the sole pics to show the wear.

 

 

Holding up well after minimum 5km per day on concrete footpaths.

 

Close up showing stitching with minimal wear.

 

Thanks so much for taking these, but damn, you are light on your heels. Mine have been worn probably 2 times a week on average for a month or so, not nearly walking 5km, and the heels are about as low as yours.

 

As for the stitching, that looks basically fine but as I'd like to avoid a resole for at least a year, I figured I will just cover the stitching with a layer or shoo goo and replace it until i dont give a shit anymore and just decide to wear through. call me neurotic but, you know, we all have our things. 

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Thanks mate. Yes I am only a lightweight. I'm actually looking forward to getting a resole when needed as I want to change the size slightly.

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Greetings.

 

I'd like to request measurements for a 7 F, should anyone be able to get ahold of those. 

 

Anyone here who uses an F and knows how much width differs between F and G?

post #3416 of 3794
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Originally Posted by richardwallace View Post

I spoke to head of repairs about screwed soles and the machines they use to make them. I'll provide some more details later, but I'd strongly recommend that people not risk getting a factory resole done, especially if you have screwed soles. Just topy your boots).

That sounds ominous! I hope you'll elaborate as I'm considering a custom with screws.
post #3417 of 3794
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That sounds ominous! I hope you'll elaborate as I'm considering a custom with screws.

Hey Silent Speaker, don't worry because I had the same anxiety as you did regarding screwed soles. I had a Vibram protective sole installed over my screwed soles because it would cost $100 USD for round-trip shipping and another $50 for a factory resole? It made no sense not to protect the screwed soles given that no one knows how to resole them other than RMW's factory.

It cost $20 for the Vibram sole and another $2 for the toe tap because of my stride. The Vibram sole comes in black or tan (beige). I chose tan because it blends in better with the "Tan" #36 color for Veal Calf. I compared it to Topy, and I couldn't tell a difference. Both companies are great for protective rubber soles.

Note: The yearling leather is rugged looking compared to the veal calf. The feel is rough and it is nearly matte. It's a very different aesthetic compared to the veal calf which is buttery-soft, fine-grained, fragile, and shinier. I recommend getting both leathers; the yearling would be great in the classic chestnut and the veal calf in black because of the colors' respective formalities.

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Originally Posted by Silent Speaker View Post

That sounds ominous! I hope you'll elaborate as I'm considering a custom with screws.

I'm still waiting to get my boots back, but the factory resole looked really messy. The stitching wasn't neat and the screws were all over the place. Some of the screws weren't even completely in the sole. The shape of the boots had changed too, they were all out of shape and not as nice as they were. I expected that a factory resole would look as good as new and be done with lots of care, but it just looked like a really rushed job.

I spoke to the head repair guy at the factory about the screws and he said the machines they use are really old and hard to use. I said that I had never seen a brand new pair with such messy screws and he didn't really have an explanation. It sounded like they only care about making boots functional, they don't care too much about how they end up looking.
(screw position wouldn't be a big deal if this was the only problem, but is a symptom of a job that was rushed or done carelessly)

I would not recommend a factory resole. Instead get them topyed/vibrammed.
post #3419 of 3794
How would they be with Goodyear welted soles? My dyna flex are wearing down and I want to replace them in time with full rubber.
post #3420 of 3794
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Originally Posted by cmd06 View Post

It made no sense not to protect the screwed soles given that no one knows how to resole them other than RMW's factory.

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Originally Posted by richardwallace View Post

I'm still waiting to get my boots back, but the factory resole looked really messy. The stitching wasn't neat and the screws were all over the place. Some of the screws weren't even completely in the sole. The shape of the boots had changed too, they were all out of shape and not as nice as they were. I expected that a factory resole would look as good as new and be done with lots of care, but it just looked like a really rushed job.

I spoke to the head repair guy at the factory about the screws and he said the machines they use are really old and hard to use. I said that I had never seen a brand new pair with such messy screws and he didn't really have an explanation. It sounded like they only care about making boots functional, they don't care too much about how they end up looking.
(screw position wouldn't be a big deal if this was the only problem, but is a symptom of a job that was rushed or done carelessly)

I would not recommend a factory resole. Instead get them topyed/vibrammed.

Thank you for your replies.

I'm in Oz at the moment, so a resole costs about 120AUD. I'm not sure how long I'm going to be here before heading off again, so I'm trying to get my fill of RM's before the day.

I've heard about the potential problems with the brass screw device. Apparently yes they only have one left, and when it (occasionally) breaks down it can take a lot of fumbling to get the thing going again - I think it's the case where no one is still amongst the living that really knows how it works, so there are times where they build up a large backorder when they fiddle with the thing to get it in working order again.

Despite all this, I'm still enamored with the idea of them: A vivid memory imprinted in my mind is of a very young me chasing after my father up a long, winding staircase - white marble, deep red carpet, and the glinting when the brass on the soles of my father's boots occasionally caught the light.

I've got some comfort craftsman, yearling in chestnut which I've worn, very heavily, for the better part of three years or so. Overdue for a resole.

I'll be getting a pair of Tanbark comfort kangaroo craftsmans within the week (stock willing), and am really considering an order for some craftsman (or perhaps even the buckle boot) in Dark Tan. I'll see how I like the tanbark roo's first before deciding on the leather.

Don't see much of the Dark Tan round here. Like I said, I already have some craftsmans in chestnut and also a pair of Baxter's Henry Baxters for variety in a similar dark brown. I think a lighter brown is in order.

Despite the issue of resoling with the brass screws, I don't think I could bring myself to put a protector on them. I'll enjoy them whilst they last. When the machine finally gives up the ghost and all memory of its intricate workings passes from living memory, then I'll at least have enjoyed them while it lasted.
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