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post #3391 of 3800

G'day mate, 

 

Welcome.

 

My size 8.5F turnout boots have an ankle opening that measures 9cm from front to back and 6.5cm from side to side.

I've had 'em about a month now so they're relatively new still. It's a nice, supportive ankle - takes a little bit of effort to get them off after a day's wear.

post #3392 of 3800

Hey, I was wondering if maybe I could get some help with my RMs.

 

I have a pair of macquaries with a comfort sole, and so as many of you know, the stitching ont he sole itself is not in a channel or anything, and so they make constant contact with the concrete in NYC i spend so much time walking on. Any shoes I have where the stitching is not in a groove, the stitching begins to come undone rather quickly. Obviously the soles on Dainite soles and Ridgeway soles have similar stitching, but the studs and ridges prevent the stitching from coming into contact with the street, so it's pretty safe. 

 

Does anyone know if this will happen with my RMs? Or if there is anything I can do to help prevent this?

post #3393 of 3800

The stitching will come into contact with the street on certain parts of the shoe, but that doesn't in anyway shape or form mean that the sole is going to fall off the shoe, because the glue will hold it in place. Besides, only parts of the stitching will be worn away, but will still be present in other parts of the shoe. Don't forget that many shoes including very expensive ones don't have the soles stitched at all and rely on glue.

post #3394 of 3800
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Originally Posted by OREO View Post
 

The stitching will come into contact with the street on certain parts of the shoe, but that doesn't in anyway shape or form mean that the sole is going to fall off the shoe, because the glue will hold it in place. Besides, only parts of the stitching will be worn away, but will still be present in other parts of the shoe. Don't forget that many shoes including very expensive ones don't have the soles stitched at all and rely on glue.

 

That doesn't seem quite right—on my allen edmonds when the stitching by the toe wears down, the toe starts to separate from the sole, and it's time for a resoling.  But with my RMs, the stitching isn't simply decorative—it's essential to the construction of the shoe, right? It's the reason people install toe taps, because it will make the sole last longer. Basically, the stitching comes in direct contact with the cement, and short of topying a rubber sole, what are the solutions/dangers?

 

Does anyone else have any experience with RM comfort soles with frequent (2-3 times a week) use in the city? 

post #3395 of 3800

I have been wearing comfort craftsmans for the last 3 months walking 2.5km (about 30 minutes) on the footpath to work. I also do a lot of walking throughout the day at work. So, minimum 5km per day. So far the soles look hardly warn. There is a smooth part on the rubber around the front contact patch and at the heel there is some minor wearing down at the very back. Better than I was expecting for all the pavement pounding.

 

I was also wondering about the stitching when I bought them but so far there is no problem. I know some mates that have had their boots for many years. They have been resoled multiple times and not one has ever mentioned any problems with stitching.  

post #3396 of 3800
I have a pair of leather soled craftsmen on which I nearly wore through the leather after 4 or 5 years. I've since had the boots re-soled but they never came away from the midsole even though the overall sole thickness probably decreased by half after years of heavy wear.

RMW seem to use pretty good stitches actually - less likely to wear through than on some of my English shoes for example.
post #3397 of 3800
RMW's are made for the tougher conditions here.
post #3398 of 3800
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Originally Posted by Dr P00b View Post
 

I have been wearing comfort craftsmans for the last 3 months walking 2.5km (about 30 minutes) on the footpath to work. I also do a lot of walking throughout the day at work. So, minimum 5km per day. So far the soles look hardly warn. There is a smooth part on the rubber around the front contact patch and at the heel there is some minor wearing down at the very back. Better than I was expecting for all the pavement pounding.

 

I was also wondering about the stitching when I bought them but so far there is no problem. I know some mates that have had their boots for many years. They have been resoled multiple times and not one has ever mentioned any problems with stitching.  

 

Thanks for your response. It's encouraging. Do you mean to say the stitching on the sole hasn't worn down at all, the way it would for dress shoes? If so, that's really impressive. Do you have any photos of your soles so I can know what to expect? That would be great. Thanks again for your comments. 

post #3399 of 3800
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

I have a pair of leather soled craftsmen on which I nearly wore through the leather after 4 or 5 years. I've since had the boots re-soled but they never came away from the midsole even though the overall sole thickness probably decreased by half after years of heavy wear.

RMW seem to use pretty good stitches actually - less likely to wear through than on some of my English shoes for example.

 

I've been annoyed at how quickly AE or loake will wear down. I was also concerned about RM stitching because I know it's probably meant more for mud and earth than it is for cement. I see people with red wings or white that are 10 years old with no resoles, and I'm amazed. then I learn they dont live in NYC and dont have to walk on the cement.

 

I'm sort of concerned about the creasing, but I have no idea what I should do about that. 

post #3400 of 3800
They perform equally well on the cement, don't worry.
post #3401 of 3800

Havingaravup the stitches don't seem to be worn down at all. I will take a pic but I won't be able to until next week. On holidays and I didn't bring them with me. I only needed the double pluggas (thongs) and the golf spikes. :)

post #3402 of 3800
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Originally Posted by DesmondD View Post

G'day mate, 

Welcome.

My size 8.5F turnout boots have an ankle opening that measures 9cm from front to back and 6.5cm from side to side.
I've had 'em about a month now so they're relatively new still. It's a nice, supportive ankle - takes a little bit of effort to get them off after a day's wear.


Thank you!

I'm looking at a used pair of RM Williams on eBay right now but they look like they have a topy sole stuck over the original leather.

Can a topy sole be removed/would it be worth it? I heard they make the leather rot inside-out.
post #3403 of 3800
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Originally Posted by eternaltapestry View Post

Can a topy sole be removed/would it be worth it? I heard they make the leather rot inside-out.

They are usually just glued on with contact adhesive, so yes they can be removed. Hopefully, they will come off without damaging the leather sole.

Not sure why they would rot the leather inside out. if the boots are looked after.
post #3404 of 3800

If the wear of a leather sole is such a concern you may as well get a rubber. 

 

Aesthetically they're not as striking as a leather sole, but they're certainly not ugly and will last you a good deal longer. Considering you'll probably be wearing them with jeans or chinos rather than a suit i can't see an issue. 

post #3405 of 3800

I think he has the comfort rubber sole.

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