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The poron sole is more comfortable and won't significantly affect fit.

Grimslade! Nice to see you back here. Been too long!!
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I've been having a read through this thread but I thought I'd bring up an old question in case anyone has new insights:

 

Why is it that bootsonline, Nungar and ABH can offer prices that are ~$100 cheaper than RM Williams stores and the RM Williams website?

 

It seems (to me) that RM would want to limit this sort of activity. Sure, they're still getting paid for the boots but they're getting paid a lot less than they could be.

 

I'd love to order from a local brick and mortar store and support the business but for an extra $100, I just couldn't justify it (and besides, I wanted a custom order anyway).

 

Is it simply that RM are too lazy/can't be bothered to properly deal with the online aspects of retail, perhaps?

post #3318 of 3799
I suspect this will change as they now have a relationship with LV MH. Since I'm cheap, I am not enthusiastic.

I suspect a lot of the price difference goes to taxes however. In addition to engaging in tax evasion with RM Williams boots, I've bought Heschung shoes from French stores online and saved considerable money. Those Noyers that you could easily spend $700 for at Barney's cost a little over $400 if you buy from a French shipper. Paraboot, on the other hand, is much more vigilant.
post #3319 of 3799
Nah it's not tax, only tax you save compared to a local buyer is 10% GST so about $30-45 depending on what you order.

Simple answer is we Aussies arent greedy... RMW frequently have buy a pair of boots get a free oilskin/deckchair/picnic rug, which they value at about $100 or so. Obviously you don't get that when you order through an online dealer, you just save the coin on the price of the boots.

LVMH might try to put a stop to it but they would essentially have to raise their wholesale prices and would lose a lot of customers as a result, at least in the short term. RMW recognise I think that the online guys who sell at wholesale bring a lot of business to the factory that would look elsewhere if forced to pay full retail.
post #3320 of 3799
RMW is still 51% Australian owned, so any price, policy etc. changes are still in the hands of Ken Cowdrey, though LV would undoubtedly have some sort of say if they have differing ideas.
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I'm sort of annoyed with my RM situation. The order was officially placed on July 10th, with a 3-5 week turn around, before shipping. They told me that RM said the boots would arrive at the very end of August, which puts them in my hands about 2 months after I ordered. Honestly I wouldn't at all mind if the online seller  had said 2 months, but I was on the phone with them a bunch, and they said 3-5 weeks wasn't really an estimate, but that's actually how long it takes. 

 

Basically, I wanted them by a particular date, which 2 months ago seemed reasonable, but now no longer. I guess I'm being petty but I'm still disappointed, as this is the most expensive pair of shoes I've bought and I've never had to wait for a turnaround this long from the UK. 

 

Sorry, basically just venting because I'm dying to get my RMs and they're farther than I thought. 

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I'm sort of annoyed with my RM situation. The order was officially placed on July 10th, with a 3-5 week turn around, before shipping. They told me that RM said the boots would arrive at the very end of August, which puts them in my hands about 2 months after I ordered. Honestly I wouldn't at all mind if the online seller  had said 2 months, but I was on the phone with them a bunch, and they said 3-5 weeks wasn't really an estimate, but that's actually how long it takes. 

Basically, I wanted them by a particular date, which 2 months ago seemed reasonable, but now no longer. I guess I'm being petty but I'm still disappointed, as this is the most expensive pair of shoes I've bought and I've never had to wait for a turnaround this long from the UK. 

Sorry, basically just venting because I'm dying to get my RMs and they're farther than I thought. 

If they fit well, you'll love them and have them for years...and a 2 month wait won't matter. I ordered a Goodwear Leather jacket in March...2012. I should be getting the call in the next month to have it made. I was given a 12-15 month wait time and it has even exceeed that. Only 2 months? Please! biggrin.gif
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I reckon it's fair enough that you're a little disappointed at the wait time.

 

Sometimes I think it would make much more sense for companies to over-estimate the time frame when they provide a quote so that most people receive the product BEFORE they think they will. And then of course if the company is running behind schedule, they have a bit of buffer time up their sleeve.

 

Anyway, I'm sure you'll be pleased when they do come through - I've been in the process of a custom mandolin build since October 2010, so I certainly empathise with you. It's hard playing the waiting game! 

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R.M William chelsea chestnut, R.M. William buckle boots chestnut, R.M William Kangaroo tankbark, Loake Burford boots, Oliver Sweeney Lessona boots + 2 timberland shoes.
 

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That's a lovely collection right there ^

 

Well done, sir

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I love the jodhpurs. 

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RMW is still 51% Australian owned, so any price, policy etc. changes are still in the hands of Ken Cowdrey, though LV would undoubtedly have some sort of say if they have differing ideas.

Sooner or later in time, it will be in LVMH's hands 100% I imagine, but until then enjoy. At present who knows what direction in pricing it will go, but looking at how the prices go up, it rises every 6 months, with every new season. Where will it end???

Make the most, perhaps it will go global as Ken has wanted to expand the brand awareness, and to do that LVMH has the knowledge to do so, once the brand goes global, it will lose the uniqueness we have enjoyed here in Australia for over 80 plus years.
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Is it alright to use Obenauf Heavy Duty LP on my RM Williams?
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Perhaps try their boot oil first instead? I found that the LP really 'dulls' boots and certainly darkens the colour substantially. Good for work boots and for water proofing but not so good if you're looking to dress them up a bit

 

Boot oil will darken them, but only by a couple of shades I think. And Obenauf's seem to think that it's possible to get a bit of a shine on boots after using the oil.

 

What sort of leather are your RMs?

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Perhaps try their boot oil first instead?
You mean Obenauf Leather Oil?
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What sort of leather are your RMs?

It's the standard Comfort Craftsman in Chestnut
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