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Here it is: http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/16_10486.htm I got my local RM Williams to get me the leather swatch, and had one of my local dealers work it out with the factory. Out of the dozens of leather options, camel was by far the most interesting to me (love the dual grain pattern), and the grain was watch stronger than the cattlehide options (very scuff resistant.) Your best bet to see some in person (if you don't live in Australia) would be upmarket women's wear stores - they are sometimes used on expensive bags. Australian camel is a little different from camel from other places though, since the age of slaughter is older, so the full grain hide is thicker and makes for more durable footwear I'll post up boot pics once they arrive - still another month or so away though.
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Originally Posted by mikecch View Post
Here it is: http://www.dpi.qld.gov.au/16_10486.htm Out of the dozens of leather options, camel was by far the most interesting to me (love the dual grain pattern), and the grain was watch stronger than the cattlehide options (very scuff resistant.)
At first glance, I assumed that Camel was the color...not the leather Can't wait to see what these look like. Note, I've really enjoyed reading your sufu posts about leather care and especially your home-brew leather conditioners. The "shoes look better w/age" thread and leather goods threads are great reads. It's clear you posses a tremendous amount of knowledge about leather. You've contributed a ton of useful info. Please keep it coming.
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^ Thanks for the kind words mate!

Whatever knowledge I have come from the various craftsmen I had the pleasure of dealing with over the years, and I'd be very happy if more folks get interested in the leather itself, and not just the garment/accessory it's been made into
Nice to know someone reads my rants
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Meant to say. Cultism deal

How is the resale value of these boots? I saw a pair of almost new RM williams boots on the BST for about $160 dollars, makes for the $200 sale price cultizm is selling them seem like the normal price, and the regular RM williams price ($300?) seem overinflated, right? the cultizm deal doesn't seem like such a good deal now?
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Originally Posted by iroh View Post
How is the resale value of these boots? I saw a pair of almost new RM williams boots on the BST for about $160 dollars, makes for the $200 sale price cultizm is selling them seem like the normal price, and the regular RM williams price ($300?) seem overinflated, right? the cultizm deal doesn't seem like such a good deal now?

Have you been to a shoe store lately? $200 won't get you anything good. R.M. Williams boots at that price are an excellent value. The resale price of used boots on the B&S forum is irrelevant.
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Originally Posted by iroh View Post
How is the resale value of these boots? I saw a pair of almost new RM williams boots on the BST for about $160 dollars, makes for the $200 sale price cultizm is selling them seem like the normal price, and the regular RM williams price ($300?) seem overinflated, right? the cultizm deal doesn't seem like such a good deal now?

Resell value of work-boots are always a bit lower than dress shoes, since they usually have had a fair amount of wear and tear.

IMO, RM Williams are priced fairly for MTO one-piece boots made in Australia.
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Originally Posted by mikecch View Post
Resell value of work-boots are always a bit lower than dress shoes, since they usually have had a fair amount of wear and tear.

IMO, RM Williams are priced fairly for MTO one-piece boots made in Australia.


I couldn't agree more. After trying the standard yearling craftsman on at the RMW store in Manhattan, I really thought they offered a decent value at full US MSRP. That was somewhere in the $450 range IIRC. As Mike states above, it's a whole cut, handcrafted boot that can conceivably be resoled as many times as the owner wishes. $400 isn't that unreasonable for similar quality boots here in the US.

I bought my two pair (black and chestnut yearling craftsman) from Barry at bootsonline. They ran me ~$250 shipped which is a fantastic value for a whole cut, handcrafted boot...IMO.

I absolutely love them!



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I have these boots (craftsman yearling) and they fit fine for now but i am afraid they might get a bit loose if i wear them for a while and they stretch. not to mention if the elastic stretches. there is also a tiny tiny bit of heel slip right now.
post #2799 of 3784
I've had a pair for about 4 years and the elastic gores have kept their shape very well. The heels should stop slipping once the boots soften up a bit. I wouldn't worry.

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Originally Posted by iroh View Post
I have these boots (craftsman yearling) and they fit fine for now but i am afraid they might get a bit loose if i wear them for a while and they stretch. not to mention if the elastic stretches. there is also a tiny tiny bit of heel slip right now.
post #2800 of 3784
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Originally Posted by JohnnyLaw View Post
Have you been to a shoe store lately? $200 won't get you anything good. R.M. Williams boots at that price are an excellent value. The resale price of used boots on the B&S forum is irrelevant.
Agree $200 is a bargain for these. I am in Australia and RMW second hand sell on ebay for more than $200 even with moderate wear. I sold my 10 year old plus pair well worn on 2nd or 3rd sole for $175 on eBay and bought a new pair from cultizm for $200. Even shipped to Australia from wherever they are they are a steal! They arrived today - couldn't be happier. Got the greasy kip Blaxland perfect all weather boots, looks like nubuck, nice last, super comfortable. FWIW I have favourite handgrade CJs and EGs in boots, etc RMW not as refined but still very comparable for comfort and good rugged looks and wear.
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Are RM Williams Craftsman boots considered to be workboots?
post #2802 of 3784
No, dress boots.
post #2803 of 3784
Semi-dress concept; dress boots for blokes who are used to wearing work boots everyday.
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Semi-dress concept; dress boots for blokes who are used to wearing work boots everyday.
Maybe yes, but also I notice in Australia or in Sydney at least for sure many professionals eg lawyers politicians et al wear RMW with suits - perhaps it's a kind of national dress here or perhaps also because they are about the only good quality shoes generally sold at retail here. As we know best English shoes etc are very rare at retail in Australia. Almost the only other thing you see would be either crap quality lumpy fugly shoes or clowns pointy 2sizes too big spivvy ones with turn up ends also crap quality.
post #2805 of 3784
posting out of pent up excitement - I am giving my Stockmans too much action so decided to get another boot. I just received an order confirmation on some french veal calf Macquaries in tan with a screwed chestnut sole. 6 WEEKS yaaarrgh these are gonna be sweeeeeet edit: in the far far future I will post some photos
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