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post #151 of 4002
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Originally Posted by grimslade
The thing is, mine _shipped_ four weeks ago. Not from nungar, tho.

I fear the cheaper shipping reflects shipping by surface mail. Surface mail is a disaster. It can take 3 - 4 months!!!

Steve at Nungar ships by air.
post #152 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Sator
Actually if I did have a worry it is that the boots will be slight touch on the loose side.

I am trying to tweak my recommendations so that people get a proper snug fit. I think boots should be worn snug.

My boots just arrived, and so far I am extremely impressed with the construction and the overall looks (I got the veal Craftsman in chestnut). Sator, you were right on with the measurement guide - the boots fit great. I will also mention that after walking around for about 30 minutes, I've decided that these are the most comfortable shoes/boots that I've ever worn right out of the box. I can't wait to see how they feel once broken in!
post #153 of 4002
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Originally Posted by AlexP415
My boots just arrived, and so far I am extremely impressed with the construction and the overall looks (I got the veal Craftsman in chestnut). Sator, you were right on with the measurement guide - the boots fit great. I will also mention that after walking around for about 30 minutes, I've decided that these are the most comfortable shoes/boots that I've ever worn right out of the box. I can't wait to see how they feel once broken in!

when was your card charged and who did you order them from? Also, what size are you and what size did you order.
post #154 of 4002
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Originally Posted by edmorel
when was your card charged and who did you order them from? Also, what size are you and what size did you order.

I ordered the boots from Nungar Trading on October 10th. Steve emailed me back right away to confirm, and advised that the factory expected the boots to be finished and delivered by the first week of November. Steve then emailed me again on October 25th to tell me that he received the boots, and was shipping them right away. I believe he charged my card on the 27th. All in all, a very good experience - Steve was helpful with my sizing concerns, and he was quite responsive to my various inquiries regarding the delivery date.

For sizing, I followed Sator's recommendations as well as I could. I usually wear a 12B or 12C in AE, with the exception of the Park Avenue, in which I wear an 11.5C. I ended up ordering the boots in a 10.5G, and they fit very well. I probably could've gone down a width without a problem, but I was concerned that they would be too small. As it is, I'm happy with the fit.

Cheers!
post #155 of 4002
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Originally Posted by AlexP415
I ordered the boots from Nungar Trading on October 10th. Steve emailed me back right away to confirm, and advised that the factory expected the boots to be finished and delivered by the first week of November. Steve then emailed me again on October 25th to tell me that he received the boots, and was shipping them right away. I believe he charged my card on the 27th. All in all, a very good experience - Steve was helpful with my sizing concerns, and he was quite responsive to my various inquiries regarding the delivery date.

Cheers!

Wow, are you talking about your order or mine?
I ordered on the ninth, heard from Steve on the 10th, charged on the 25th. Since I'm in NYC, I guess I should receive them by the end of the week.
post #156 of 4002
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Wow, are you talking about your order or mine?
I ordered on the ninth, heard from Steve on the 10th, charged on the 25th. Since I'm in NYC, I guess I should receive them by the end of the week.

I'm going to have to start looking at other people's footwear more carefully. Seems like wearing RM Williams boots is soon going to be the equivalent of wearing a StyleForum t-shirt.
post #157 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Sator
I fear the cheaper shipping reflects shipping by surface mail. Surface mail is a disaster. It can take 3 - 4 months!!!

Steve at Nungar ships by air.

They claimed it was by air, but I have nothing to show for it. Pennywise and pound-foolish perhaps. Argh.
post #158 of 4002
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Originally Posted by edmorel
Wow, are you talking about your order or mine?
I ordered on the ninth, heard from Steve on the 10th, charged on the 25th. Since I'm in NYC, I guess I should receive them by the end of the week.

All flights from Sydney pass through LA airport. As a passenger you have to change to a flight headed towards New York. I imagine your boots are taking the same journey. I've noticed that shipment to/from the West Coast of the US is always a tad quicker than the East Coast.
post #159 of 4002
I was just about to order but all this sizing madness has me reconsidering. I wear a 9.5D in an AE Byron. This shoe just barely fits though. It's almost too short for me. I guess maybe try a 9G in RM Williams?
post #160 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Chris Rimby
I was just about to order but all this sizing madness has me reconsidering. I wear a 9.5D in an AE Byron. This shoe just barely fits though. It's almost too short for me. I guess maybe try a 9G in RM Williams?
The reason the AE is so snug is because they run quite narrow compared to RMW boots. Again, the softer more compliant leather of the RMW makes them feel roomier. I too find a 8D in lasts other than the AE Nr 5 feel almost too short and really snug - just like you. If I then compare an RMW 7G with it, I find it feels longer and wider even though the measurements tell me that AEs are longer. I can only explain this by saying the RMW leathers are softer and thinner plus the extra width stops the toe box from getting cramp - giving the illusion of being longer. I strongly suggest that you go for an RMW 9F if you are going for size 9s. It will still be considerably roomier than a 9.5D in the Byron because it will be a lot wider. I am very seriously beginning to think that the best recommendation is RMW 8F for someone who wears AE Byrons in 9D - especially when you order in veal calf or kangaroo. I will rewrite my sizing recommendations to make it simpler - when I have time. At the moment it looks like madness - sorry. Though as you can see, the basic recommendation of AE size minus one basically works for most people anyway. I just want to tweek things to get it even more precise.
post #161 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Sator
I strongly suggest that you go for an RMW 9F. It will still be a bit roomier than a 9.5D in the Byron even then. But maybe that's a good thing.

The reason the AE is so snug is because they run quite narrow compared to RMW boots. Again, the softer more compliant leather of the RMW makes them feel roomier.

I will rewrite my sizing recommendations to make it simpler - when I have time. At the moment it looks like madness - sorry. Though as you can see, the basic recommendation of AE size minus one basically works for most people anyway. I just want to tweek things to get it even more precise.

You mean the veal or would the kangaroo leather be more recalcitrant?
post #162 of 4002
Alex,

Would you mind letting me know what was the total charge to your CC? I received the same boots from Nungar yesterday and the charge was about usd289. By my calculation that's about aud70 for shipping? Thx.

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Originally Posted by AlexP415
I ordered the boots from Nungar Trading on October 10th. Steve emailed me back right away to confirm, and advised that the factory expected the boots to be finished and delivered by the first week of November. Steve then emailed me again on October 25th to tell me that he received the boots, and was shipping them right away. I believe he charged my card on the 27th. All in all, a very good experience - Steve was helpful with my sizing concerns, and he was quite responsive to my various inquiries regarding the delivery date.

For sizing, I followed Sator's recommendations as well as I could. I usually wear a 12B or 12C in AE, with the exception of the Park Avenue, in which I wear an 11.5C. I ended up ordering the boots in a 10.5G, and they fit very well. I probably could've gone down a width without a problem, but I was concerned that they would be too small. As it is, I'm happy with the fit.

Cheers!
post #163 of 4002
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Originally Posted by skalogre
You mean the veal or would the kangaroo leather be more recalcitrant?
If by recalcitrant you mean harder and stiffer then it is the opposite. Veal and kangaroo are thinner and softer. The kangaroo is thinner but also very tough and grainy. The veal calf is soft and more fragile but polishes up better and looks a lot dressier.
post #164 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Sator
If by recalitrant you mean harder and stiffer then it is the opposite.

Veal and kangaroo are thinner and softer. The kangaroo is thinner but also very tough and grainy. The veal calf is soft and more fragile but polishes up better and looks a dressier.

I see. So the 'roo hide would be able to form around and mould to the foot properly.
post #165 of 4002
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Originally Posted by skalogre
I see. So the 'roo hide would be able to form around and mould to the foot properly.
Not necessarily - it's just softer and stretchier. It means you have to get a snug fit or else the boot will feel too loose. I especially think boots should be snug around the ankle to help give support to all those ankle ligaments and reduce fatigue while walking. It's a really nice feeling once you've got the taste of it - shoes feel like there's something seriously missing by comparison.
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