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post #1231 of 4002
What a fantastic resource!! Thanks a million to Sator and all the other contributors to this amazing thread. For yrs I've worn mass produced chelsea style boots and have always longed for something of better quality. I'm currently wearing [out] a pair of J&M 'Kennard' elastic sided boots. For the last 2 yrs, I've traveled to Manhattan once or twice a month and have walked by the RMW store so many times without stopping.

After reading much of this thread, I'm sold!! I'm off to Manhattan tomorrow (12.15.08) and have already called ahead to see if they have my (suspected) sizes and sole/color combination. As this will be a year round boot for me, I prefer the composite sole. One of my favorite comments contained in this thread has to be:

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Originally Posted by bootsnbraces View Post
Completely. But your boots will be in fine shape to pass on to your next of kin, because a few steps outside on an icy day and you'll be dead from head trauma. Assuming you've got remarkable balance and manage to survive the icy days, your feet will be quickly soaked because the leather won't be water-resistant, and the salt will beat all hell out of it, too...

I have suitably waterproof (and horribly ugly) boots for actual snow & slush and I hope my RMW's will serve as appropriate for for those days when I'm not ankle deep in muck. I live in Boston and travel weekly for business, mostly in the northeast, but I don't spend all that much time walking/using mass transit for work meetings, unless I'm in Manhattan.

Not sure exactly where I'm going with all this but thanks again for all the great info. I've read a lot of threads here at SF but it was this RMW thread that got me to post!
post #1232 of 4002
Some time lurker, first time poster. Aussie living in NY, big RMW fan.

I own Craftsman in Black French Veal Calf and Chestnut French Veal Calf, plus a 12 year old pair of Chestnuts in Yearling.

To answer some of the recewnt questions:

- yes, resoling thru RMW is excellent, I've even changed a leather soled pair to a rubber soled.
- I have a short wide foot, and take 7.5H or 8H in RMW. The 7.5H is a better fit overall, but the 8H has a bit more toe room. This corresponds to 7.5G in Churchs and 8EEE in AE McClains, for me at least.
- I wore mine thru the slush and snow of a Boston winter and they stood up very well. They are VERY durable shoes, and polish up beautifully.
- I can't recommend the French Veal Calf highly enough, it is amongst the most exquisite leathers I have ever seen.
- Sator has definitely introduced me to the fact that they carry a large collection of swatches in other colours, I'm definitely going to investigate whiskey, claret and others!
- to answer abrocketsfan's question, Craftsman is the last shape, Comfort denotes the rubber sole (usually in yearling leather), Kangaroo denotes the leather type (usually in the satandard leather sole), though it is of course possible to get a Kangaroo Comfort Craftsman MTO...
BTW kangaroo is also a lovely leather.


Basically I'd like to echo everything Sator has said about these boots. A single cut Chelsea boot in quality leather at this price, it really should be compulsory in anyone's wardrobe !

Cheers

Ged
post #1233 of 4002
I was wondering if anyone could comment on the sizing of the Macquarie B555 vs the Craftsman B543. I have a pair of Yearling Craftsman in 7F, which is pretty good fit. I'm looking to get a more rugged/casual boot and have been considering the Macquarie in brown vesta. Should I go with 7G due to the narrower toe on the B555 compared to the B543? How does the thickness of the two leathers compare? Will choosing a rubber sole change sizing much compared to the leather sole?
post #1234 of 4002
God damn Sator, I think you convinced me that my next purchase will be the forum special RM William boots.

Quick question though, how feasible is it to wear RM Williams with skinny tapered jeans (APC NC?). I'm 95% sure they will work well, given how sleek that Sator has proven them to be, but I'd like to know if anyone else uses them to streetwear and how it looks.
post #1235 of 4002
I've certainly worn my RM Williams Craftsman boots with jeans...Levi 501 Originals...and think they go quite well together.
post #1236 of 4002
I am interested in RM Williams boots, particularly these fellas: http://www.bootsonline.com.au/b555.htm, but I am new to paying any attention to what I wear beyond jeans and t-shirts. I am also going by U.S. sizes. How can I figure out what size boot would be appropriate for me?
post #1237 of 4002
^ You came to the right place with your excellent question. Read this thread to get your answer.
post #1238 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Grayland View Post
Maybe figure out your size and buy 1 pair in NYC, but you can save a lot of money buying them online from Australia. I just got a pair for about $185 shipped. If I remember correctly, they are at least $350 in NYC.

Where can I find a pair for this price online?
post #1239 of 4002
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Originally Posted by 2nd sunday View Post
Where can I find a pair for this price online?

www.aussiebushhats.com
post #1240 of 4002
I tried on a couple yearling pairs today and it seems like the best fit for the Comfort Craftsman was 8.5G and for Turnout Jodphur 8G. Does that make sense? Maybe because of the Craftsman's narrower toe? Do I have to account for any difference in sizing if I wanted the Kangaroo?
post #1241 of 4002
Alright, I have saved up enough money to purchase a pair of RMW boots and I think that they will serve as a good casual boot and something that I can wear with my TaT suit.

Unfortunately, I own no AE/Lobb/EG so I'm not exactly sure what my size is.

All I know is that I comfortably can wear Clarks in size 8. I dislike snugness in my shoes, so what size should I opt for in the Forum Special in Yearling leather? I suppose I wear a normal wide/D width so I'd I imagine for the RMW Forum Special it would be something like 9F?

It would be helpful if someone who owns both Clarks and RMW boots would let me know their sizes.

If anyone can let just let me know that would be great. I don't know the return policy but I don't think that dealing with international returns over minor sizing issues is something I want to deal with.
post #1242 of 4002
Order from bootsonline. I just ordered my Comfort Craftsman in whiskey on the 26th. Bootsonline charges slightly more but, from what I had read, I was willing to pay for their customer service. The bootsonline site has the option of ordering in US sizes and you receive a confirmation email within a minute or so. Then, to my surprise, I received a call yesterday from an Aussie woman confirming my order and who was happy to discuss sizing and the question of leather vs. composite soles. I was on the fence between the Craftsman with leather soles/brass screws and the Comfort Craftsman. Leather soles = sleeker, but composite=longer lasting and more comfortable. If all goes well, I expect my boots sometime in early to mid-February (depending upon shipping/customs). **Of course, if you are set on the forum special, you've got to go with nungar and their/his notoriously bad service (based upon my reading of this thread).
post #1243 of 4002
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Originally Posted by JR88 View Post
^ I'd say 8G.

I just received (from Nungar) my second pair of Comfort Craftsmen in 8.5G. (I am a 9.5D US.) Frankly I am a bit surprised at the variance in fit. My second pair is noticeably roomier -- slightly wider toebox and wider through the arch/across the vamp. But length appears to be the same. That said, both pairs are extremely comfortable.

Exactly my experience. Three pairs of exactly the same size and model: Comfort Craftsman, Yearling, 12H.

The first pair (black) were stock items and fitted snug as a bug. Hard to get on and hell to get off, with no slippage in the heel. Perfect!

The second pair (whiskey) were MTO. They arrived way too baggy, so were returned to Australia. The RMW factory seemed equally perplexed as to how they could have slipped through. With the replacement pair, I need to wear a slightly thicker sock than with the black ones, and the heel is definitely looser.

I put the above down to bad luck, and it is something that I can live with. The third pair were MTO (claret). Imagine my surprise, when they too were found to fit exactly like the whiskey MTO.

I can only guess, that MTO's fit slightly differently from their stock boots.

Don't get me wrong - I LOVE my RMW boots. The service from the London store has also been superb.
post #1244 of 4002
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Originally Posted by Lel View Post
Alright, I have saved up enough money to purchase a pair of RMW boots and I think that they will serve as a good casual boot and something that I can wear with my TaT suit.

Unfortunately, I own no AE/Lobb/EG so I'm not exactly sure what my size is.

All I know is that I comfortably can wear Clarks in size 8. I dislike snugness in my shoes, so what size should I opt for in the Forum Special in Yearling leather? I suppose I wear a normal wide/D width so I'd I imagine for the RMW Forum Special it would be something like 9F?

It would be helpful if someone who owns both Clarks and RMW boots would let me know their sizes.

I love my chisel toe RMWs with TaT suits - great look! Back in Australia they were mostly worn by the 'Toorak Tractor' set - usually paired with chins or jeans.

The sizing is is about UK +1, so if you're an 8 in Clarks and Doc Martins, a 9 sounds right for wriggle room. Can't really help on widths - sorry.
post #1245 of 4002
Hey guys,

I just got a forum special with the non slip sole in whiskey.

Great shoes.

I've worn them about three times, and the vamp has plenty of wrinkles in it.

They have been leather conditioned and polished.

They always have shoe trees in place.

Is it the size? They are 11.5 F, and I thought I should have gone 11 F, as I'm usually 10.5G. Next time, I'm going to go 11F.

Is it the sole? Does the non slip sole ensure that this ends up happening?

Was it just not made to size properly? With excess leather on the vamp?

I've seen older RM Williams that have this look. Mine arent old. I'm thinking that its probably a fit problem then - does that tend to happen if a shoe is too wide for the foot?

I've read that you can strip off the polish and conditioner with leather stripper, then re condition and polish them and that will improve the condition. Any word?

What about insoles? Do people use them for this sort of problem?

I'd like to continue to get RM Williams shoes, but if they look like these after wearing them three or four times...

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Thanks for any help you can give guys!
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