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post #16 of 34
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I reallly should have been more clearer...

And yes, I understand, that all shoes have SOME machine work to it...

I should I said "Which shoes have the most handwork of RTW makers?" and how many makers do this?
post #17 of 34
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Originally Posted by aportnoy
blah...handmade...blah...blah...Amesbury...blah....
I think the dividing line is handwelted and machine welted. For me at least. Andrew- I would stay away from Amesbury. I have heard some disturbing things about his workmanship from a couple of people who have been clients of his. They had nothing but negative things to say. For my part, his shoes look very average. You can do much better, for much less, elsewhere.
post #18 of 34
My Bruno Magli's say they're 'Handmade in Italy'. Does that count?

Just kidding.
post #19 of 34
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Originally Posted by Chris "Italia"
Lattanzi; Vass, Kiton, Paolo Scafora.

Any others?

Kiton; from what I seen, have an remarkable amount of handwork in it.

In Vienna you find excellent work from e.g. Balint, St. Crispin's or Maftei.

Greetings from Austria
post #20 of 34
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Originally Posted by whoopee View Post
It's been noted before that no shoe is entirely made by hand these days.

Maftei is the only maker that I have seen made entirely by hand-No, not every pair of their bespoke is entirely by hand, but they do make a traditional German shoe entirely by hand-it wouldn't wouldn't go well with a suit .
post #21 of 34
The owner of Bontoni shoes describes them as handmade and hand finished. I recall him saying that the soles were sewn by hand and not by machine.
post #22 of 34
Why do people get so pumped up about items being made without the usage of machinery? I guess they can point to all the errors, assymetries, and imperfections associated with being hand-made and say it gives the end product "character"
post #23 of 34
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Originally Posted by Chris "Italia" View Post
Lattanzi; Vass, Kiton, Paolo Scafora.

Any others?

Kiton; from what I seen, have an remarkable amount of handwork in it.

Dinkelacker:

http://www.heinrich-dinkelacker.de/index2.html

It is a traditional german company since 18XX. The shoes are made in Budapest.
post #24 of 34
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I think the dividing line is handwelted and machine welted. For me at least.

Andrew-

I would stay away from Amesbury. I have heard some disturbing things about his workmanship from a couple of people who have been clients of his. They had nothing but negative things to say. For my part, his shoes look very average. You can do much better, for much less, elsewhere.

I would add to Iammatt comment handlasting. In my opininon the dividing line is handwelting (vs machine-goodyar welting) and handlasting (vs machine lasting). any shoe which is not handlasted and handwelted cannot be defined as entirely handmade, term of which the industry clearly and extensively abuse.

Fra
(www.sw1.it)
post #25 of 34
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No, not every pair of their bespoke is entirely by hand, but they do make a traditional German shoe entirely by hand-it wouldn't wouldn't go well with a suit .

Tell me more. Why not with a suit?

Btw, Amesbury is highly regarded by the Maftei family. Though there is not much on the fora about him. Can you be more precise, Matt?
post #26 of 34
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Why do people get so pumped up about items being made without the usage of machinery? I guess they can point to all the errors, assymetries, and imperfections associated with being hand-made and say it gives the end product "character"

+100. And handwork is important-why?
post #27 of 34
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+100. And handwork is important-why?

I think there was a post (or posts) where the message from Gaziano was that hand lasting is more precise than machine lasting + certain higher end materials will be destroyed by a machine.
post #28 of 34
I hear Berluti are the finest handmade shoes.
post #29 of 34
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I hear Berluti are the finest handmade shoes.

The handest finemade shoes?
post #30 of 34
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I hear Berluti are the finest handmade shoes.

Did you hear this on Radio Eriwan?
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