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Here ya go:

 

http://www.alexanderleathers.com/military/b7-parka.html

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The B7 is not comparable to the Coastal Command. The B7 was for the ground crew, whereas the Coastal command is based on the RAF jackets, which were worn by the pilots themselves - those ones re shorter and different in style and fit. Essentially the Coastal Command is a longer RAF jacket with a hood added to itself and pockets being added (which is, however, not in line with the original Coastal Command). Btw, for those who want to avoid buying expensive paint from Aero for repainting their Coastal Command hood: I am 99% sure the paint they used is from Fiebig, which is available online in the exact same colours for a fraction of the price that Aero asks for.
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Originally Posted by Mon Dieu View Post


On site these are referred to as "Sheepskin 38" that is not the size of the coat ? Am a 48 in the "Mallory" am assuming I would be a 48 in the leather ?

Thoughts on the coat itself as compared to the "Coastal Commander" and what looks to be the reissue of the jacket, may just wait as I am a fan of the original hooded jacket.

Thanks

Ignore the tagged size and look at the measurements. Most of those jackets, down and shearlying, are going to be wide for two reasons. The first is that it's winter so you layer, the second is that the material foundations of the jacket are wide. In my case I'm a 50 in most NC that's designed to be worn as is and a 48 in those things that are designed to be won over if I don't want them to be over. So I have a 48 in a NC-EB Skyliner, 22 inches pTp (with like maybe 1.5 inches being down) and would have a 48 in some of the overcoats or likely the coastal command.

Just keep a close eye on the actual measurements and remember those are outside and probably not interior.
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Ignore the tagged size and look at the measurements. Most of those jackets, down and shearlying, are going to be wide for two reasons. The first is that it's winter so you layer, the second is that the material foundations of the jacket are wide. In my case I'm a 50 in most NC that's designed to be worn as is and a 48 in those things that are designed to be won over if I don't want them to be over. So I have a 48 in a NC-EB Skyliner, 22 inches pTp (with like maybe 1.5 inches being down) and would have a 48 in some of the overcoats or likely the coastal command.

Just keep a close eye on the actual measurements and remember those are outside and probably not interior.


Thanks, this is what I was looking for, the "Mallory" size 48 I wear with either shirts or lighter knits read non bulky knits. The "Sheepskin 38" measurers 22+ PTP which could  work with heavier knits, roll necks etc. That stated, even though its a "good price" I do not believe it is what I want in a leather "Cabourn" jacket.

Had a shot a the "Coastal Commander" years ago at Barneys and have always regretted not getting it.....Was very deeply discounted but was unaware of Caboun at that time...

 

No worries though there is always more stuff to buy, thanks again and a great thread

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Originally Posted by PhilVo View Post

The B7 is not comparable to the Coastal Command. The B7 was for the ground crew, whereas the Coastal command is based on the RAF jackets, which were worn by the pilots themselves - those ones re shorter and different in style and fit. Essentially the Coastal Command is a longer RAF jacket with a hood added to itself and pockets being added (which is, however, not in line with the original Coastal Command). Btw, for those who want to avoid buying expensive paint from Aero for repainting their Coastal Command hood: I am 99% sure the paint they used is from Fiebig, which is available online in the exact same colours for a fraction of the price that Aero asks for.

Yes good points
The Nigel Cabourn Coastal Command jacket was based on a vintage WW2 British Irvin flying jacket worn by pilots which Nigel has in his vintage collection
Nigel altered the design by taking off the belt and adding the pockets and re shaping the jacket a little to create a unique design

The hood is as the original though and they were painted yellow for visibility when/if pilots had to be rescued

Nigel originally thought the painted hood was for visibility from gunners (friendly fire) but a veteran got in contact to tell him of the correct reason

He published a lot of this info on his old website blog which sadly has disappeared and as far as I know hasn't been cached

Here is a photo of the original vintage piece


Edited by Eric Gill Sans - 2/11/14 at 9:17am
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A few more photos of original pieces

Coastal Command jacket



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There was a rumour that Nigel hand painted the hoods for his Coastal Command jackets himself

I don't know whether this is true or not - I should have asked him last year

The paint is yellow and orange Fiebings acrylic leather paint which sits on top of the leather a little and is prone to cracking on the creases. the original dye would have been oil based and has soaked into the leather more

I quite like the flaky cracking effect though - I wouldn't repaint as it looks more aged
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Just got this peice in - short parka wet weather. Suppose to be from their main line made for the Japanease. Is there a quality difference? The jacket doesn't really live up to the usual cabourn quality. But keep in mind I only have two cabourn peices - FW camerman / mallory. Zipper is not RiRi. Jacket is suppose to be ventile, but does not say and there is disclaimer saying it will loose its waterproofiness over time and its normal.
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Nearly all Cabourn today (new season work wear jeans, linen Mallory, sample combo trench) - the barman in the pub I'm in now asked me if I was from the 1930s!
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Nearly all Cabourn today (new season work wear jeans, linen Mallory, sample combo trench) - the barman in the pub I'm in now asked me if I was from the 1930s![/quote]

Ha ha - looking great - very envious as I'm trying to track down who ordered the raincoat in size 46

Sounds like my landlord

Wore my green Cold Weather Parka with the beaver tail down to my local the other day and got into a great conversation about Northern soul and mod culture with a fully paid up veteran of the Wigan Pier and Northern soul scene -he thought I was a brother!

Still the pubs near me are used to Bradley Wiggins sporting his dapper looks so I guess I'm nothing too out of the ordinary
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wow - just stumbled on this website

 

Does this belong to anyone on here?

 

http://blindamericanicons.wordpress.com/page/3/

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Yes forgot who, but person that does that is a contributor.
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Originally Posted by irbe View Post

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Just got this peice in - short parka wet weather. Suppose to be from their main line made for the Japanease. Is there a quality difference? The jacket doesn't really live up to the usual cabourn quality. But keep in mind I only have two cabourn peices - FW camerman / mallory. Zipper is not RiRi. Jacket is suppose to be ventile, but does not say and there is disclaimer saying it will loose its waterproofiness over time and its normal.

 

I have this jacket and really like it.  I used to have the aircraft jacket.  This one fits slimmer.  I didn't see any difference in quality.  If anything, I prefer the japanese line.  They usually fit slimmer and with higher armholes as well as longer sleeves.  If it ever loses water resistance, you could play around with some DWR spray or soak.  But I would highly recommend testing it in an inconspicuous area first.  I myself will leave mine to wear naturally.  Don't need it to be water proof or resistant.  By the way, the zipper is YKK.  Nothing wrong with them.  I probably prefer the feel of those over RiRi ones I've had.  They'll all last though.

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Very pleased with the size 46 Nigel Cabourn Brady jacket

Looked at the label and it was made for the Japanese market as it's got the Outer Limits label - I guessed that might be the case as I scoured Europe when it first came out for a size 46 with no joy

The sleeves have been lengthened extremely neatly by inserting a lining of about 1 inch by the previous owner as the Japanese market is a little shorter as a standard western fitting

It's fits a treat

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