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post #3166 of 4168
Phew!

I am glad you posted those photos - I've just proved to my wife that I look nothing like the hideous outfit Colin Baker had

Now I must confess to a little of Davison's English foppishness from time to time and I quite like his outfit

This is my summer evening's attire



NC SS13 Compton Jacket, NC AW12 Bernard C Day Under jersey, NC SS11 white naval pants, NC SS12 plimsolls
post #3167 of 4168
Looking good Doctor biggrin.gif
post #3168 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Eric Gill Sans View Post

I am glad you posted those photos - I've just proved to my wife that I look nothing like the hideous outfit Colin Baker had

Good .. I thought, if she really meant it, that was a nasty burn she just gave you!

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Originally Posted by Eric Gill Sans View Post

Now I must confess to a little of Davison's English foppishness from time to time and I quite like his outfit

Thanks for the pic - nice fit and the naval pants are looking good. I don't own any NC trousers, always thought they'd be too baggy for me but maybe not.
post #3169 of 4168

If you guys don't mind, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the fit of this cricket jacket - I've not had a Cabourn jacket before, and thought I'd treat myself, but I'm worried about it being too short (on the body, I think the arms are fine). It's not a particularly long jacket, but being 6'3" never seems to help with more traditional/workwear inspired tops. Apologies for the photos - my Mum isn't very tech-savvy (or good at keeping still, it seems).

 

 

 

 

 

There must be other taller chaps here who pull off this look?

post #3170 of 4168
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Originally Posted by smartlew View Post

If you guys don't mind, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the fit of this cricket jacket - I've not had a Cabourn jacket before, and thought I'd treat myself, but I'm worried about it being too short (on the body, I think the arms are fine). It's not a particularly long jacket, but being 6'3" never seems to help with more traditional/workwear inspired tops. Apologies for the photos - my Mum isn't very tech-savvy (or good at keeping still, it seems).









There must be other taller chaps here who pull off this look?

I think it looks great, absolutely spot on - if you have a look at the video I posted a link to a few posts ago where I spotted a striped tie, you will see Drew ( Nigel's right hand man) who is over 6 foot tall modelling all the sample SS13 48 jackets which are made for him to demonstrate the fit

The cricket jackets are very of the moment having a short fit - much more fitted and preppy than previous seasons and you carry it well.
post #3171 of 4168
Just to add

My idea of a whether a jacket fits is :

The sleeve length coupled with how it fits accross the shoulders - I can't see the back from the photo but if there isn't baggyness accross the shoulders and the fabric is flat then it's a good fit

If there's excess material and creases then go down a size - you could easily wear a slightly shorter sleeve length to show a bit more shirt cuff
post #3172 of 4168

Could use some advice in general, but especially from those of you who have the SS13 Camo Notch Work Jacket. 

 

Before I show you the photos and get to the point, note that I have about a 43" chest, am 5'10" and about a 33/34 waist.  I'm a 50 Cameraman, 52 Harris Tweed Mallory and 50 Aircraft Jacket to give you a general idea.  Now I ordered a size 52 for the chest and back  Also, the tag inside the 52 says it's for someone 6'0" to 6'2", 36" to 38" waist and 42" to 44" chest.  So while it fits pretty much everywhere, the sleeves are a bit long.  I'll be wearing it as outerwear and so the length, which is probably only 1/2" longer anyway, is fine by me. 

 

So the sleeve goes just past the knuckle in my thumbs.  Just past.  I was thinking of getting the sleeves shortned so that they are about 1/4" above the stitch line at the cuff.  This IMO leaves just enough room so that I don't have to get rid of a button and so the buttons still look OK.   

 

So you have two pictures below.  The top picture is how the cuff normally looks, with about an inch above the stitch line.  The second picture is about how it would look, just with a straighter edge (the tailor is pretty good).  The alteration would mean the sleeve is still a bit longer than I'd prefer, but it should be fine.  It'll land at the bone at the base of my thumb. 

 

 

Anyway, I'd love to get your thoughts.  I'm thinking the alteration would be fine.

 

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post #3173 of 4168
It sounds like you picked the correct size. I just received my Camo Notch Work Jacket and the size 50 fit is spot on for me. I am a size 50 in the tweed Mallory jacket. Luckily, the arm length on the notch work jacket is just about right.
post #3174 of 4168
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Originally Posted by smartlew View Post

If you guys don't mind, I'd appreciate your thoughts on the fit of this cricket jacket - I've not had a Cabourn jacket before, and thought I'd treat myself, but I'm worried about it being too short (on the body, I think the arms are fine). It's not a particularly long jacket, but being 6'3" never seems to help with more traditional/workwear inspired tops. Apologies for the photos - my Mum isn't very tech-savvy (or good at keeping still, it seems).

 

Looks fine to me. I'd button the bottom button on this one though! With it being so high up, it just looks strange to leave it undone.

post #3175 of 4168
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Originally Posted by Eric Gill Sans View Post

The cricket jackets are very of the moment having a short fit - much more fitted and preppy than previous seasons and you carry it well.

AFAICT they are made to fit short, like the 1930s sports jackets they were modelled after which allowed a lot of freedom of movement. That particular fit seems right in the shoulders so apart from the slightly long sleeves (still acceptable in a rtw/workwear piece imo) it probably fits how it was meant to.

After acquiring a few NC pieces and hearing people discuss various fitting issues I've come to think that NC mostly fits how it is intended - e.g. my SS Mallory is very closely fitted on me whereas my AW Mallory is distinctly looser in the waist and my AW Cameraman is almost oversized. I first thought it was unplanned variation but now I just think the Cameraman is meant to be more like outerwear e.g. worn over a thick jumper or another jacket. I still want to try a size down but that's just my preference rather than design error as such.

(apologies for disorganised thoughts, still half asleep after first coffee of the day .. )


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Originally Posted by NickJohannessen View Post

Looks fine to me. I'd button the bottom button on this one though! With it being so high up, it just looks strange to leave it undone.

Yeah, or maybe try just the middle button?
post #3176 of 4168
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Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post

Could use some advice in general, but especially from those of you who have the SS13 Camo Notch Work Jacket. 

Before I show you the photos and get to the point, note that I have about a 43" chest, am 5'10" and about a 33/34 waist.  I'm a 50 Cameraman, 52 Harris Tweed Mallory and 50 Aircraft Jacket to give you a general idea.  Now I ordered a size 52 for the chest and back  Also, the tag inside the 52 says it's for someone 6'0" to 6'2", 36" to 38" waist and 42" to 44" chest.  So while it fits pretty much everywhere, the sleeves are a bit long.  I'll be wearing it as outerwear and so the length, which is probably only 1/2" longer anyway, is fine by me. 

So the sleeve goes just past the knuckle in my thumbs.  Just past.  I was thinking of getting the sleeves shortned so that they are about 1/4" above the stitch line at the cuff.  This IMO leaves just enough room so that I don't have to get rid of a button and so the buttons still look OK.   

So you have two pictures below.  The top picture is how the cuff normally looks, with about an inch above the stitch line.  The second picture is about how it would look, just with a straighter edge (the tailor is pretty good).  The alteration would mean the sleeve is still a bit longer than I'd prefer, but it should be fine.  It'll land at the bone at the base of my thumb. 


Anyway, I'd love to get your thoughts.  I'm thinking the alteration would be fine.

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For some reason I can't see the photos - is it because I'm on an ipad and iPhone?

It's difficult to comment without seeing the photos but I do think the perceived fit of a jacket can be greatly improved by getting the sleeve length right but as pointed out by others, because NC jackets are more workwear/sportwear inspired, it's not as crucial than formal suit type jackets.

As Drew is over 6 foot and the sample size of 48 is based on his fit and other sizes are worked out from this, the sleeves are usually a bit long for me as well, being 5'11 but as I'm slim but with slighly broader shoulders than my size suggests and can go as small as a 44, the shoulders pull the sleeves a little higher so in recent seasons, they have been spot on.

If the sleeves are too long, a really good tailor can alter by repositioning the lower button to the top and cutting just above the lowest button rather than shortening the cuff up to the lowest button.

Another thing I do occasionally is, unbutton the bottom couple of buttons and turn up the cuff - I do this when I wear a particularly large bulky watch. It shows off the proper working cuff which was designed to roll up to avoid getting it dirty when doing manual jobs and looks really good with the camo jacket.

On a slightly different angle, I follow on twitter the store manger from the army gym in Japan and he posted someone wearing a denim notch jacket which had been washed and had shrunk slightly

It got me thinking as to what would happen if I stood in a warm shower wearing the camo jacket and wore it until it dried like the 'shrink to fit' jeans idea.



High risk but love the look
post #3177 of 4168
That is a great picture of the Denim Notch jacket. I own this years Camo Notch - I assume the fit is identical?
Tempting to buy one size up and wash it - I am afraid washing your proper size will not work as the fit is already precise in this particular cut?

Gregg
post #3178 of 4168
This mornings esoteric photo of the ensemble



NC SS12 selvedge pocket Tenzing; NC Japan white Oxford; NC SS11 white naval pants; NC SS12 plimsolls
post #3179 of 4168

Quote:

Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post

Could use some advice in general, but especially from those of you who have the SS13 Camo Notch Work Jacket. 

 

Before I show you the photos and get to the point, note that I have about a 43" chest, am 5'10" and about a 33/34 waist.  I'm a 50 Cameraman, 52 Harris Tweed Mallory and 50 Aircraft Jacket to give you a general idea.  Now I ordered a size 52 for the chest and back  Also, the tag inside the 52 says it's for someone 6'0" to 6'2", 36" to 38" waist and 42" to 44" chest.  So while it fits pretty much everywhere, the sleeves are a bit long.  I'll be wearing it as outerwear and so the length, which is probably only 1/2" longer anyway, is fine by me. 

 

So the sleeve goes just past the knuckle in my thumbs.  Just past.  I was thinking of getting the sleeves shortned so that they are about 1/4" above the stitch line at the cuff.  This IMO leaves just enough room so that I don't have to get rid of a button and so the buttons still look OK.   

 

So you have two pictures below.  The top picture is how the cuff normally looks, with about an inch above the stitch line.  The second picture is about how it would look, just with a straighter edge (the tailor is pretty good).  The alteration would mean the sleeve is still a bit longer than I'd prefer, but it should be fine.  It'll land at the bone at the base of my thumb. 

 

 

Anyway, I'd love to get your thoughts.  I'm thinking the alteration would be fine.

 

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Sorry lads, the photos showed when I initially posted them.  Here you go:

 

 

 

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Again, first one is the cuff as is.  Second is as it would be, though edge would be straighter.  The difference is 3/4 to 4/5" and the stitching would be only 1/4 to 1/5" from the edge. 

post #3180 of 4168
I don't like the look shortened, but it may look okay if you unfasten the first button.
If your tailor is good, can he not shorten the sleeve from the shoulder?
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