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Returning back to the SS13 Camo notch jacket on Present - they have posted size measurements and it appears that the jacket runs smaller than this winters Mallory?  I took a 50 in the Crazy Mallory however based on what they posted it might look like a tight fit?

 

Gregg

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I already have the browny/orangey one... can I justify a green one too?

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Nice one - I love the 4 way roll necks

I occasionally wear them inside out because I like the shoulder/neck reinforcement and ribbing detail on the inside and so I have taken off the size label and re- stitched the 'made in England' and 'Nigel cabourn' labels so they are fully stitched flat. I have also taken out the inside white label which is on the lower inside seam. It only took about half an hour - results below



End Clothing have around 12 pieces coming in from the SS13 collection - jackets, army shirts and the converse plimsols. Full range of sizes including 46's. No date yet but imminent. They went live towards the end of Feb last year so I would assume the same - they are going to ring me when in so ill post straight away.

PS this is what the white 4 way roll neck looks like inside out without my doctoring above - you can just see the lower white tag on the right which I removed

Photo from someone selling one on EBay

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Returning back to the SS13 Camo notch jacket on Present - they have posted size measurements and it appears that the jacket runs smaller than this winters Mallory?  I took a 50 in the Crazy Mallory however based on what they posted it might look like a tight fit?

Gregg

It's a tricky one. The crucial measurement is the chest or pit to pit so if you think you can just fasten it up at the chest then this may be the right size. This style of jacket is much more fitted and looks best in my opinion without any creasing across the shoulders

The shoulder seam sits differently to the Mallory as the photo below

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Eric

 

Thank you for the reply.  I tend to wear my jackets slim however I have broad shoulders and am always on the line between a 50 and 52 due to that fact.  The Mallory 52 (by online measurements) appears to have the same shoulder measurement as the Mallory 50 - the body was simply larger.  As such I took a 50 (I had the chance to try it on at Barneys NY).  The pit to pit measurements (at least posted by Present) seem to be distinctly smaller for the Camo compared to Ends measurements for my winter Crazy Mallory  -  22 for the Mallory vs. 20.5 for the Camo both in size 50 - quite a difference.  The Camo in size 52 lists pit to pit at 21.5 - still half an inch smaller than the size 50 Mallory at 22.

 

Me thinks up one size to 52 is the way to go.  I have an email into Cabourn so I will be curious to see (if) and what they reply.  Present is already out of size 52.

 

Gregg

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Eric

Thank you for the reply.  I tend to wear my jackets slim however I have broad shoulders and am always on the line between a 50 and 52 due to that fact.  The Mallory 52 (by online measurements) appears to have the same shoulder measurement as the Mallory 50 - the body was simply larger.  As such I took a 50 (I had the chance to try it on at Barneys NY).  The pit to pit measurements (at least posted by Present) seem to be distinctly smaller for the Camo compared to Ends measurements for my winter Crazy Mallory  -  22 for the Mallory vs. 20.5 for the Camo both in size 50 - quite a difference.  The Camo in size 52 lists pit to pit at 21.5 - still half an inch smaller than the size 50 Mallory at 22.

Me thinks up one size to 52 is the way to go.  I have an email into Cabourn so I will be curious to see (if) and what they reply.  Present is already out of size 52.

Gregg

Yes you are right they do sound small - the shops can be a bit inaccurate too I've found when they post sizes which adds to the dilemma. Looks like Present's Cabourn is selling fast.
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I took one of the unloved green Fairisles in 48, on the off-chance it might fit. Only another 7 of them left, folks...


Don't remind me.. I paid 85 quid a few weeks ago thinking it was a bargain...

 

Which it was was to be fair, for something handmade in Scotland from Shetland wool.

 

55 quid is just giving it away...

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Don't remind me.. I paid 85 quid a few weeks ago thinking it was a bargain...

Which it was was to be fair, for something handmade in Scotland from Shetland wool.

55 quid is just giving it away...

I slept on it... and now it's sold out. Damn.
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I slept on it... and now it's sold out. Damn.

 

Missed it by an hour or so, mate, it was still there when I checked earlier...

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This should clear up a few of the SS13 questions we're seing (apologies if everyone has seen it before):

 

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Some bizarre commercial things happening at Flannels. Their Nigel Cabourn AW12 sale prices have gone up in price after their flash sale and they are recycling SS12 pieces back up to full price and calling them 'New Season' !!

 

Still no sign on line of the Edgar Evans smocks that were seen in the Manchester shop.

 

I went into The Manchester Flannels when the AW11 collection came out and wanted to do a deal buying two pieces at full price which I showed them was around 5% more expensive than other Nigel Cabourn retailers. The pieces would have totaled £1,200 but they wouldn't budge. The salesman even to went to ask the manager and came back saying "no sorry".

 

Needless to say that both pieces were left unsold until their sale when they sold for around 60% of there original price.

 

I appreciate their overheads with staff and beautiful shops in prime city centre locations is going to be far greater than many other other stockists but they don't engender loyalty to customers.

 

 

 

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Yes you are right they do sound small - the shops can be a bit inaccurate too I've found when they post sizes which adds to the dilemma. Looks like Present's Cabourn is selling fast.

 

Actually I am hoping that this is the case.  The video posted by Nick was helpful in that it showed Nigel's assistant trying on the camo in what was marked 48.  It was slim on him (looked like he could not button it)  - he also looks rather tall (over 6'?).  I am 5'10 and about 175 lbs so maybe the 50 is correct and the 52 will be large - especially considering if Presents online measurements were wrong.

I do know that my Mallory 50 fits me perfectly - the 52 had the same shoulders just a larger body (too big for me).

 

Gregg

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Actually I am hoping that this is the case.  The video posted by Nick was helpful in that it showed Nigel's assistant trying on the camo in what was marked 48.  It was slim on him (looked like he could not button it)  - he also looks rather tall (over 6'?).  I am 5'10 and about 175 lbs so maybe the 50 is correct and the 52 will be large - especially considering if Presents online measurements were wrong.

I do know that my Mallory 50 fits me perfectly - the 52 had the same shoulders just a larger body (too big for me).

 

Gregg

Hi Gregg

 

I have had a look at some various styling shots and photos of people wearing the camo jacket (last year called Tenzing) and they all tend to be wearing it quite fitted almost too small in some cases to get a real preppy look. it appears only Nigel himself wears it loose - but he does on most of his clothes - its his personal style so I guess its what you feel comfortable in. My personal style is to wear this jacket small and tight fitting so that just one of the middle buttons fastens to give that nipped in waist crease.

 

various style shots below

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Interestingly when the Cabourn team had this photo taken when selling their SS12 range at the shows they pre-washed their jackets and gave them a jolly good old flogging and let them air dry in the garden to get this lived in creased look - it's just given me an idea!!

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I can't help but think that if you want to look a total dick, camo jacket and camo shorts makes for a pretty winning combo... But my taste may differ from popular opinion on this!

 

Also, while I'm bitching about the camo... :-) It strikes me that with longevity in mind, the camo pieces will age (i.e. go out of "fashion") much faster, given that they are currently at least somewhat still in vogue. Investing in costly Cabourn pieces I think it is wiser to buy the more classic styles and get much longer use of them.

 

Unless you're in the army and can wear Cabourn camo to work, I guess that makes a weird kind of sense.


Edited by NickJohannessen - 2/12/13 at 11:17am
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Superdenim just gone live with SS13

 

some crackers - all navy ventile Cameraman, plenty of shirts and a great jersey olive Mallory.

 

Whats gone wrong...... everyone's stocking 46's. I hope they all don't think I'm going to buy them all although I have been lobbying hard for more smaller sizes over the last few years!

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