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post #1876 of 4500

As regards price, I won't go into it much since we discussed it a while back.  I will say though that despite being excited for the next Marrkt event, I will keep my cards close to my chest this time.  Prices last time weren't enticing at first.  Of couse I'll have to wait and see what they've got.  I'll be looking to buy Cabourn going forward though.  I like some AW 12, but SS 13 doesn't look as enticing.  Love my SS 12 Cameramen though and fi they do another "iconic" piece like the raw yellow cameraman I'll be in. 

 

Have to say I've had some looks at MoK's pics in the WAYWT thread.  Haven't been fussed with the thread otherwise, but I like MoK's style and he's got some nice looking pieces.  In fact MoK, I checked out Cro'jack after seeing you mention themin that thread.  Not been too impressed, but some Cabourn similarities.  Have a "camerman" of their own.  I haven't seen any garments in person, but based on the pics they don't look as nice as Cabourn.  Of couse whether Cabourn is worth x amount more in terms of value is another thing. 

 

I have to say that I am looking at a Japanese brand as much if not more than Cabourn this AW season.  Pricing is similar to Cabourn and from what I could tell this past SS they either produce less or it sells faster. 

 

@ Zissou, glad to hear you liked your new Mallory.  I'm sure it suits you as the AW one you have does.  IIRC you have a good tailor too to take care of the sleeves. 

post #1877 of 4500

I'd like to add my support for SEH Kelly. I have their Tour jacket (hey, I'm using it as my avatar!), a pair of their cord trousers, and a grey raglan cord shirt. Really nice, properly made garments impeccable made in the UK with only British materials and proper bone buttons. I'll definitely be buying more from them in the future. Oh, and their items are never on sale, but fairly priced for what you get, which makes a nice change :-)

 

A couple of names I'd like to toss out among the connoseurs... Scandinavian heritage-influenced brand Hansen (www.hansengarments.com) and Norwegian Ûber-rainwear Norwegian Rain (www.norwegianrain.com). Both of these are among my favorites.
 

post #1878 of 4500
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Originally Posted by BLAUGRANA View Post

  In fact MoK, I checked out Cro'jack after seeing you mention themin that thread.  Not been too impressed, but some Cabourn similarities.  Have a "camerman" of their own.  I haven't seen any garments in person, but based on the pics they don't look as nice as Cabourn.  Of couse whether Cabourn is worth x amount more in terms of value is another thing. 

I have to say that I am looking at a Japanese brand as much if not more than Cabourn this AW season.  Pricing is similar to Cabourn and from what I could tell this past SS they either produce less or it sells faster. 

@ Zissou, glad to hear you liked your new Mallory.  I'm sure it suits you as the AW one you have does.  IIRC you have a good tailor too to take care of the sleeves. 

I find Cro'Jack a bit hit and miss in terms of styling - certainly their Cameraman-esque piece isn't one of their strongest, but I really like the Sonar and Uffa jackets. Construction quality is pretty similar to Cabourn although the materials aren't as good - a decent enough tweed but not Harris for example. The photos on their web site don't do the garments justice.

I'm hoping Heritage Research do a British inspired season soon, I like their stuff but it is very American.

I haven't looked at S H Kelly - must invesigate.

I've not ruled out buying more Cabourn, and like the stuff I've got, but a piece is going to have to be very special for me to justify the costs.
post #1879 of 4500

I had a look at SEH Kelly and Cro'jack as well based on the comments in the thread and I thought there was something missing style-wise.. Although they do seem to be well-made.. Old Town is another quite interesting brand more or less in the same vein (heritage designs, made in England, etc) but with reasonable prices (www.old-town.co.uk)

 

2pm on the 9th October seems to be taking bladdy ages to come around btw...

post #1880 of 4500
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Let's no ruin this thread by continually harping on the cost. If it's too expensive, just buy something else.

 

yeah co-sign this, there is more expensive out there and cheaper too, but moaning about price isnt making this thread interesting.

 

As for SEH (check out private White too), the stuff is really nice, but id say a different beast to NC, yes its english made, quality clothing, and suits someone past there mid 20's, but i think NC is far more 'heritage' where as SEH which i think will develop there brand with current styles, im unsure NC will do this and will continue to be more heritage driven.

 

oh and the brand Heritage Research no longer exists im afraid.

post #1881 of 4500
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Let's no ruin this thread by continually harping on the cost. If it's too expensive, just buy something else.

That's precisely what several guys have said they plan to do. It's a perfectly reasonable discussion to have here. It's not like we're all new to NC and could never dream of affording anything from him.
post #1882 of 4500
Let's appreciate the design, quality or whatever floats your boat about NC. Critique the design, quality or whatever, but let's not devolve this thread into the too expensive thread. Every thread could be turned into a moan session about the costs, because what's expensive is all relative.
post #1883 of 4500
Design, while more tangible, is also relative. I would argue that quality is even more abstract, though, and takes into account pricing.
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I agree that bemoaning the price is a waist of a thread. I simply responded due to my general surprise at how inflationary the cost appears to be this winter season and the past summer season. No doubt the style and quality are unchanged if not better from past season. Is it possible he is using more selective manufacturing methods and materials that simply cost more?

That being said, I am a little disappointed in the roden gray pieces. I was really excited about these articles in that I climb and ski myself and love any kind of heritage outdoor product. But I'm growing tired of the current camo craze, and feel like it has lost it novelty and certainly misses the point on a mountaineering inspired heritage collection. Hell even the original 10th mountain division garments weren't camouflaged.
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oh and the brand Heritage Research no longer exists im afraid.
In danger of going off-topic here, but HR launched a AW12 collection in august...
post #1886 of 4500
Agreed. Camo is played out. My favorite Cabourn piece for F/W is this ventile parka. Once it goes on sale, i'm on it.
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I wouldn't say that people were "bemoaning" the price.  I think the discussion was in part about value.  Having worked in the industry for years I can say that the things I generally look at are style, quality and value.  At some point value plays into it and when you're comparing Cabourn to another brand that is "similar" then it can and probably should be considered.  Besides, the thread isn't getting hijacked.

 

As for the AW12 Collection, I was thinking of changing the discussion earlier today and saying we should post the piece we're most looking forward to getting.  I had a hard time narrowing it down though.  It's not just because I like x amount of pieces either.  Don't get me wrong, I do, but IMO it's in part because it's similar across the board.  The colors, the styles, the details.  I mean there are how many parkas and some are very close.  I also think the Collection seems a bit too similar to what we've seen before.  I mean the Cameramen look nearly identical to last season's.  In a way I'm happy about that as I would like a Navy Cameraman, but on the flip side I was hoping for something that looked a bit different.  Of course you've for the limited edition pieces, but theyr'e of course the highest in price.  Anyway, Cameraman aside (and a Mallory as well), the pieces I like are:

 

Frank Debenham Seaman Coat

 

 

My concern with the Seaman coat though is that it'll be quite boxy.  Also like the Edgar Evans Antarctic Smock Jacket

 

 

My knock on the smock jacket though is that it's plaid (yes, I get the historical aspect).  Love the details at the hood though.  Worried the fit will be really oversized though.

 

Looking at the Authentic Collection, I like the Short Puffa Jacket in any color/combination:

 

post #1888 of 4500
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In danger of going off-topic here, but HR launched a AW12 collection in august...

Im happy to be corrected, I had heard they had gone to the wall, and haven’t seen it stocked anywhere, have u any links to stockists?  (edit: heard the AW12 items on the site may just be samples made up that never made full production)

 

Pieces I want this winter are a cameraman (if not this season, looking to look at previous for bargains), the converse boots when they drop and Debenham seaman coat is nice too! 


Edited by evel - 10/4/12 at 3:58am
post #1889 of 4500
I like the fact that NC keeps things consistent, but may add a twist by offering new styles.
post #1890 of 4500
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Originally Posted by evel View Post

Im happy to be corrected, I had heard they had gone to the wall, and haven’t seen it stocked anywhere, have u any links to stockists?  (edit: heard the AW12 items on the site may just be samples made up that never made full production)

Pieces I want this winter are a cameraman (if not this season, looking to look at previous for bargains), the converse boots when they drop and Debenham seaman coat is nice too! 

I've not heard anything, but I can't see the AW12 collection anywhere other than their web site so you might be right. It's a shame, but their summer collection didn't do a lot for me.


Back to NC - yes the Debenham seaman coat is nice. I don't need another duffle, but if i was after one I'd be very tempted.
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