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post #16 of 32
For what it's worth, I opened a dispute with paypal despite the fact that it was a personal payment and the case was resolved in my favor - paypal reversed the transaction and I have my $$ back. This wasn't a drawn out process either - I made one call, opened the dispute and with no further effort on my part got my money back.
post #17 of 32
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Originally Posted by UnFacconable View Post
For what it's worth, I opened a dispute with paypal despite the fact that it was a personal payment and the case was resolved in my favor - paypal reversed the transaction and I have my $$ back. This wasn't a drawn out process either - I made one call, opened the dispute and with no further effort on my part got my money back.
I, on the other hand, ran into shenanigans with Paypal. The case was closed, the email said it was in my favor, the web site said it wasn't in my favor but a refund was issued. No refund was given. I called in and got my $200 back. Lesson learned.
post #18 of 32
Thanks for the heads up
post #19 of 32
just use common sense and be wary of shady sounding peeps. also make sure you search their name in the feedback thread ...

most of the sellers on here have a SuperFuture and/or eBay account as well so check their too
post #20 of 32
If they have verified paypal they have a bank account, if they don't have verified paypal they have pretty much nothing.

I have a hard time with this because I'm a small timer buyer/seller on BS and a I don't want people refusing to deal with me, but I'd also like to be protected from scammers.
post #21 of 32
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Originally Posted by SpooPoker View Post
Im curious - did they ask you why you sent a personal payment for a "goods" transaction?

post #22 of 32
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Originally Posted by Valor View Post
If they have verified paypal they have a bank account, if they don't have verified paypal they have pretty much nothing.

I have a hard time with this because I'm a small timer buyer/seller on BS and a I don't want people refusing to deal with me, but I'd also like to be protected from scammers.

this means nothing,did you know you can create a paypal acct with any name and it will transfer into ANY acct no matter what the name on the bank acct?
it is against the law for a bank to give out a name attached to a bank acct so they are just taking your word for it (i mean why would you wanna transfer money into someones account anyway right,out yeahbut in?)
second way of verifying is with a credit card,also a bunch of crap,all they match it against are the numbers on the card acct,,,as in street name and postal code,NOT THE NAME...try it.
post #23 of 32
PayPal accounts can get deleted/emptied right after a scam. If you talk with PayPal they normally will give you your money back. However like mentioned before use a credit card for protection and don't expect PayPal to give you the customer service of a bank/credit card.
post #24 of 32
I hope you catch this guy.
post #25 of 32
can anyone explain to me the difference between a "normal" paypal payment and a "personal" paypal payment? I'm thinking about selling some jeans on here and since I've never sold anything online before so I'm kind of confused about how it works.

Would I have to set up a business account with paypal to do a "normal" transaction?

I'd prefer to keep things simple and just do the regular 'request money' option from my personal account. Is that how most people do it here?

also, is there a thread with a simple guide on how to sell stuff on here?

nevermind: I just did a search and there's plenty of threads with buying and selling tips. I'll look through those.
post #26 of 32
Im curious - did they ask you why you sent a personal payment for a "goods" transaction?
post #27 of 32
The location of this spam is thick with irony.

fail
post #28 of 32
1. It might be possible to use the IP address(es) the guy was been posting from to help track/localize him. Volunteers living in the area can then follow up physically. 2. I dont think being a new poster or old poster is necessary or sufficient for suspicion. Going forward, SF might consider setting up an informal escrow system e.g. in the case where one party (seller or buyer) does not trust the other, they have an approved (either by the parties or SF) member serve as a middle man. He receives both the item (confirming the condition) and payment, and, forwards them to the involved parties. The parties would have to share any additional charges that may be accrue.
post #29 of 32
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Originally Posted by toslat View Post
2. I dont think being a new poster or old poster is necessary or sufficient for suspicion. Going forward, SF might consider setting up an informal escrow system e.g. in the case where one party (seller or buyer) does not trust the other, they have an approved (either by the parties or SF) member serve as a middle man. He receives both the item (confirming the condition) and payment, and, forwards them to the involved parties. The parties would have to share any additional charges that may be accrue.

There are plenty of sellers here who are not in it for a quick buck and would rather future business than run of with the money.
post #30 of 32
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Originally Posted by toslat View Post
1. It might be possible to use the IP address(es) the guy was been posting from to help track/localize him. Volunteers living in the area can then follow up physically.

2. I dont think being a new poster or old poster is necessary or sufficient for suspicion. Going forward, SF might consider setting up an informal escrow system e.g. in the case where one party (seller or buyer) does not trust the other, they have an approved (either by the parties or SF) member serve as a middle man. He receives both the item (confirming the condition) and payment, and, forwards them to the involved parties. The parties would have to share any additional charges that may be accrue.



I think an escrow system would open up a can of worms. You're talking liability issues here.
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