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post #106 of 140
What I'm trying to say is

Also, to reiterate, I don't want to sound too harsh on NDG. In my experience, their stuff is really good; I think I'm just bitter because it's out of my typical price range...
post #107 of 140
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Originally Posted by poly800rock
hey, that reminds me of engineered garments.....

I find EG to have a clear, directional approach to design that gives the label its own voice. Now that doesn't mean you need to jump on the boat but at least you know where it's going and that its a well made one.
post #108 of 140
Sorry but I found their stuff less than interesting let alone high design or high fashion. I checked their selection and found fabrics to be second grade and none of their designs appealing enough to try them on. For what NDG clothing is I thought they are overpriced niche maker.
Making drab looking wool jackets that fit too short use to be called poor tailoring; now apparently it passes for fashion forwardness.
post #109 of 140
I just think thier clothing is something that takes old standards and they make them thier own. The reason I like it is because most of those styles will be around for some time to come and I know they will last that entire time. Thier materials are top notch, thier stitching is done well, it's overall a well made product. And like fuuma said, a jacket may be 1500 over at cloak or from Ann D, or better yet, Paul Smith, or Jon Varvatos and from Nom De Guerre you can get a nice jacket that isn't too "out there" and be good for years and only spend 500-700. Seems like a lot, but if you wear that jacket every winter for 6 Winters.....well, seems like it paid for itself.
post #110 of 140
No offense, goldengloves, but defenses of price/cost justified over use are pretty worthless to me. I mean, the odds of a piece lasting 5 years in my closet is low, and I buy a lot less than most people on these fashion boards. Currently, I wear no outerwear I owned 5 years ago (edit: wait, one Fred Perry track jacket)--it gets phased out because of wear and tear and new purchases/styles/needs. $500/5yrs isn't much, but when one buys a new $500 jacket every year, that's different math.

That's not to say the stuff isn't worth it to the people who buy it, it's just not reasonable.
post #111 of 140
Not offended at all. Resonable, hell no! lol But I guess niether is $200 denim, but half the board is guilty of that. For me, it's a quality thing as well as getting a subtle look that will last. I personally wear jackets for quite some time, mostly because they don't take that much abuse where I live. I do understand your point, which is why my style is a little more conservative and simple instead of wearing a company like Raf Simons. Which, in my mind, will go out of style next season.
post #112 of 140
$200? hell, that's a bargain. try $300-700. guilty as charged!



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Originally Posted by Goldengloves
Not offended at all.

Resonable, hell no! lol But I guess niether is $200 denim, but half the board is guilty of that. For me, it's a quality thing as well as getting a subtle look that will last. I personally wear jackets for quite some time, mostly because they don't take that much abuse where I live. I do understand your point, which is why my style is a little more conservative and simple instead of wearing a company like Raf Simons. Which, in my mind, will go out of style next season.
post #113 of 140
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Originally Posted by giantreptile
$200? hell, that's a bargain. try $300-700. guilty as charged!

lol, very true.
post #114 of 140
i have the same feeling about nom de guerre as goldengloves. they take nice classic designs and put their own spin on them. are some of their (most) pieces over priced? Hell yes. and i'm guilty of purchasing some of these pieces at full price. i think the clothes, however, do cater to a different demographic. i see it interest those who are into more subtle and minimalistic clothing ala APC, and also want some exclusivity to it. being a huge fan of APC, i'm definitely drawn to what ndg has done in the past and currently. i'll probably be interested in purchasing different items from carpe diem, poell, undercover, n(n), etc... in the future, but right now ndg fits me and my style just right. however, i definitely couldn't pull of a leather shirt.
post #115 of 140
ddohnggo-Sounds like you and I could trade closets and be perfectly fine. Sent you a pm as well.
post #116 of 140
Thread Starter 
than that's 3 of us goldengloves.

i don't feel the need to justify spending money on NDG stuff. to say the quality of their stuff is shitty is wrong, pricing might be a bit much, but the stuff i buy retail i really want and don't want to gamble with sale season. again I don't see the difference in NDG and say engineered garments other than engineered garments is a japanese company/designer made in USA and NDG is american designed made in Japan. Both of these companies make very good quality things, not flashy, and shit you could wear 5 years ago to 5 years from now. NDG is also cut the way my body is. Being smaller than the average american consumer and pretty on average with Asian companies, it's always been a pain for me to buy shit that fits, NDG fits me perfectly. The uber cutting edge japanese shit for me looks flashy for the purpose of being flashy, and that's not even close to my style.
post #117 of 140
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Originally Posted by ddohnggo
i have the same feeling about nom de guerre as goldengloves. they take nice classic designs and put their own spin on them. are some of their (most) pieces over priced? Hell yes. and i'm guilty of purchasing some of these pieces at full price. i think the clothes, however, do cater to a different demographic. i see it interest those who are into more subtle and minimalistic clothing ala APC, and also want some exclusivity to it. being a huge fan of APC, i'm definitely drawn to what ndg has done in the past and currently.

i'll probably be interested in purchasing different items from carpe diem, poell, undercover, n(n), etc... in the future, but right now ndg fits me and my style just right. however, i definitely couldn't pull of a leather shirt.

I appreciate APC very much, in fact new standards, which I discovered here-thanks Styleforum, are arguably my favourite pair of jeans and certainly the most versatile one I have. Interestingly enough I did own a few APC garments before joining and definitely liked the label. The word "authenticity" is often thrown around in streetwear circles and I guess that I don't see it in NDG (however the name itself is pretty cool if you understand its meaning...), it all seems too calculated for me. However that doesn't mean I wouldn't pick a piece that aroused my interest or that I don't think it's quality, just that the label as an entity doesn't speak to my sensibilities. Additionally, lot of this season's items are off limits for me, be they from NDG or someone else, as I'm not into shawl collars, a Margiela sweater that I passed on excepted.

Carpe, Poell and the other arte poverta labels are a different matter entirely, as I'm fascinated by the concepts and construction techniques displayed but wouldn't wear most (we're talking 95%) of the clothes and accessories that they release. I don't dig N(N) and UC as much but some of their fashion shoots look pretty good, I guess I'd let them dress me if I was the bassist of a visual Kei band named Yoshi and had 15y/o schoolgirls dressed like me scream "Yoshiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii!!" while I was onstage.

As for the leather shirt I'm not lying when I tell you it's one of the most versatile pieces I own. I can wear it with some New standards, beat-up chucks and a plain white tee and it doesn't look out of place at all. Think of it as semi-outerwear and you'll loose you hang ups, I mean who feels self conscious in a leather jackets these days.
post #118 of 140
Looks like I sparked something here.

Fuuma, enjoy seeing your pics on here and fspot. Maybe one day I will cop dem boots.
post #119 of 140
that worker sweater looks hot.
any small ?
post #120 of 140
OK seriously guys. Take a minute. That sweater costs five hundred dollars. For something designed to look like it's worn by manual laborers. Quality workmanship is fine, but a five hundred dollar sweater is absurd. Spend a couple hours in some non-NYC thrift stores. You can fly to london and stay in a decent hotel for a week on five hundred dollars these days. Ask yourself: what will I remember when I'm 64; the sweater or the week in europe?
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