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post #61 of 69
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Originally Posted by virus646 View Post
+fucking 1. As long as you have a balanced diet, that little sugar from a muffin or a donut from time to time is not gonna hurt you as long as you're eating good stuff during the day/week.

Did you read anything in this thread? It's about how a well-balanced diet is possibly meaningless
post #62 of 69
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Well it really depends on your definition of a well balanced diet. Like are you talking about well balanced in make up and composition (I.e. filled with good things rather than bad things). Or simply a diet that covers all your nutritional needs that can be say a ton of bad crap + a multivitamin and a protein shake. Because by the latter definition his diet is well balanced to a certain level though not to a high enough level that he would claim that the diet is healthy, but certainly as a nutritionist I'm sure he made sure his body got what it needed. Whether or not the other random things in twinkies hurt him or not he didn't really elaborate on. I define a balanced diet to be simply what your body needs and no more. Then the problem is defining "what your body needs" and also "what your body does not want or need."
post #63 of 69
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Did you read anything in this thread? It's about how a well-balanced diet is possibly meaningless

Haha. So true.

Well meaningless when it comes to body fat, not health etc.
post #64 of 69
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Originally Posted by pebblegrain View Post
Did you read anything in this thread? It's about how a well-balanced diet is possibly meaningless

My bad. I'm gonna go buy a couple boxes of twinkies and call it a day.
post #65 of 69
Modern nutrition has become too obsessed with fat and muscle, and has been ignoring nutrients and vitamins. Your nutritional needs do not begin and end with your biceps or quads. They also include your skin, your teeth, your bones, your internal organs and endocrine system, and especially your brain. An all-Twinkie diet at a net calorie deficit will cause you to lose weight, but it won't provide adequate nutrition (again, I am using "nutrition" in the holistic sense of the word, and not just in the caloric or macronutrient sense). Vitamin defficiencies are moderately to extremely hazardous to your internal health, as are vitamin overloads of certain types. A multivitamin is a decent way to supplement a vitamin-defficient diet, but it is a poor substitute for food-derived vitamins.

I'd love to see a more longitudinal, i.e., years-long, study about this Twinkie diet and its effects on the professor's total systemic health over the long term. I bet he would not sign up for such a study.
post #66 of 69
^ that is not the point of the study...He's not saying it's a healthy diet.
post #67 of 69
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Originally Posted by hendrix View Post
^ that is not the point of the study...He's not saying it's a healthy diet.

I understand. My point is that his study should have taken it into account. The fact that it wasn't his point is my point.

I get that he was trying to study one or two things in isolation, and in theory, that's fine. But in reality, nothing nutritional happens in isolation. Furthermore, a bunch of people, and possibly the media, are going to draw misguided conclusions from the study results. There is a moral hazard issue here.
post #68 of 69
I've read that mutlivitamins are useless for a number of reasons. Among them are that most people are not actually deficient in various vitamins anymore and the pills don't get absorbed by the body. Just some thoughts. A link to backup my blabbing: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...-multivitamin/
post #69 of 69
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Originally Posted by freeAgent View Post
I've read that mutlivitamins are useless for a number of reasons. Among them are that most people are not actually deficient in various vitamins anymore and the pills don't get absorbed by the body. Just some thoughts.

A link to backup my blabbing: http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/0...-multivitamin/

I don't believe that for a second. The typical fast food diet common to many Americans is a nutritional disaster on many levels the least being proper vitamin/mineral intake. Without supplements most of these people would have even more health problems than they do now IMO.

And for what it's worth. The supposed problem with absorption is most likely caused by eating the supplement all by itself instead of with food which is how they are supposed to be taken.

I remember reading that eggs were good for you, then they were bad for you, now they are good for you. I really wish someone would make up my mind for me. LOL. Until then I think I'll just keep eating them.

Your link talks about vitamin supplements and whether or not they reduce the risk of cancer or heart disease. It's not surprising that it didn't show them as some magic cure all. There is no such thing as a fountain of youth.
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