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NTSB statement on erroneous confirmation of crew names
July 12
The National Transportation Safety Board apologizes for inaccurate and offensive names that were mistakenly confirmed as those of the pilots of Asiana flight 214, which crashed at San Francisco International Airport on July 6.

Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft.

The NTSB does not release or confirm the names of crewmembers or people involved in transportation accidents to the media. We work hard to ensure that only appropriate factual information regarding an investigation is released and deeply regret today's incident.

Appropriate actions will be taken to ensure that such a serious error is not repeated.
post #1787 of 3008
Hahahaha, a summer intern.
post #1788 of 3008
You mean someone wasn't paid to check resources?

The irony that San Francisco prides itself on progressive fascism, while airing such blatantly hilarious racist names (was disappointed when she pronounced "fuk") is such so....rich.
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Negativland made an entire album from fake stories they were able to get local news stations to broadcast.
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There's apparently going to be some sort of announcement from KTVU on Monday.

The most likely scenario here is that a fake press release was generated, either by some joker in the newsroom staff, or by an outside party who faxed it to the station. They then called NTSB to confirm. Presumably a clueless intern took the call. He (?) could've just confirmed it not knowing any better, or said "lemme check on that" and then got hung up on, who knows?
post #1792 of 3008
can't believe the news reader just read that and didn't stop midway or something. sum ting wong's already a dead giveaway its a prank.
post #1793 of 3008
The NTSB DID confirm that list... doesn't mean the station still should have blinked and asked again - but in the heat of a disaster with info flying and you get official approval... well...

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So, there's a couple companies in the Bay Area who've asked me to interview. One company is downtown, the other in a nearby suburb.

How do I get an accurate sense of the cost of living in SF vs the burbs?

I live in a large city currently, no income tax, and have dual incomes (with two young kids).

Feels like SF real estate is just crazy (and so are the areas nearby), unless you've already cashed out in an IPO. Even if my wife and I found comparable salaries (or even higher salaries), cost of living seems much higher; CA likes taxes.

4 bedroom homes (whether renting or buying) in desirable neighborhoods (what little I can tell of what desirable is) seem to going for premiums.
post #1795 of 3008
Well, for SF on the peninsula, take the most nightmarish amount you can imagine paying for a 4 BR and quadruple it.

Seriously, unless you're living in New York (which you arent, based on the income tax) and able to afford a 4BR, or you have a boatload of cash laying around, forget about being able to afford a 4BR in SF. SF rents are currently on par with Manhattan, if not more.

The suburbs, I honestly have no idea.
post #1796 of 3008
Rents in SF are much lower than manhattan. home prices comparable. You don't get much of a break in the burbs to the south, and certainly not in marin, but in the east bay prices do decline significantly. However, the commute can be terrible. finding a place in Berkeley is an ordeal worse than dealing with brokers in manhattan.
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Fair, you'd certainly know a lot more about it than me. The folks I know living in SF are paying just as much for their 1BRs as a 1BR in Manhattan, but they could just be living in super trendy neighborhoods. Lot of startup money floating around jacking up rents.
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Thread Starter 

^^ And you have to live in Berkeley. Fuck that.


Rents are lower, but the process is soul sucking. Craigslist.


Negotiate a housing allowance. There are a few neighbourhoods in the city proper where the cost is less; sunset, richmond, but my best guess for a decent house is easily 12k+ if not ++.


Strangely, you keep adding +'s the closer you move to people you'd never want to live near. 



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the strange thing about the SF RE market is that prices are very, very high but the rent-buy delta (or whatever) is rather large, and much larger than Manhattan.

So, renting in NYC will cost you (more or less) the same amount as a mortgage+fees (assuming a low interest rate and 20% down). However, in SF the rent will be lower. Not sure why this is. At least, it used to be that way. I do look a the RE section whenever I am home so I think this is still true ...
post #1800 of 3008
Here are some sample rental listings in Noe Valley, considered a prime family-friendly neighborhood with good proximity to both highways and transit:



Laurel/Presidio Heights is a ritzier neighborhood:

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