Dainite Chukkas

Originally Posted by emptym

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^I'd take a look at Alfred Sargent and Rider Boot, both of which can do MTO if you don't find exactly what you like RTW.

Rider uses sestrerererere (whatever they're called) faux Dainite soles. Any experience with them? Are they as good as Dainite? Note that Rider is not goodyear welted (nor storm welted)

The Chpestow is double the price of the holborn. Sanders is excellent quality.

Originally Posted by JohnnyCrockett

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Rider uses sestrerererere (whatever they're called) faux Dainite soles. Any experience with them? Are they as good as Dainite? Note that Rider is not goodyear welted (nor storm welted)

They're not 'faux' Dainite. Dainite is a manufacturer of rubber soles. Ron uses a different manufacter/brand.

Originally Posted by Fraiche

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Brecon Cordovans are beautiful!

C&J doesn't do MTO?
Just to clarify, those photos I posted were of the Chepstow, NOT the Brecon.

Originally Posted by JohnnyCrockett

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Rider uses sestrerererere Any experience with them? Are they as good as Dainite?

a tad softer

I just realized that I had forgotten about the Alden chukka. Comes in a wide fitting. It's better priced than the Chepstow, comes in a waterproof leather, and less formal looking. I like the flat toe on the Chepstow more, but it's a good trade off. Lug sole is good for snow. This thing is storm welted, right?

...it's also fugly.

Originally Posted by apropos

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...it's also fugly.
It's the same shoe as the one below... just with a lug sole and different leather: The one I posted is a lot more utilitarian and could be worn in snow and rain.

Out of the original two that you originally posted, I prefer the Sanders simply for it's sleekness. Not a huge fan of the protruding sole on the C&J.

Originally Posted by Handmadeshoes

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Out of the original two that you originally posted, I prefer the Sanders simply for it's sleekness. Not a huge fan of the protruding sole on the C&J.
Fair point, but the C&J is storm-welted while the Sanders isn't, which makes it (the Sanders) about as useful as a cucumber in the rain/snow.

Originally Posted by apropos

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Fair point, but the C&J is storm-welted while the Sanders isn't, which makes it (the Sanders) about as useful as a cucumber in the rain/snow.

Do you have photos of the C&J after actually having been warn during the winter? Thanks.

-LR

Originally Posted by apropos

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Fair point, but the C&J is storm-welted while the Sanders isn't, which makes it (the Sanders) about as useful as a cucumber in the rain/snow.

According to Bodiley's, the Chepstow IS NOT storm-welted:

The Chepstow boot is not storm welted, and although it has a danite studded sole I would not consider the leather to be water resistant and therefore not suitable to be worn in extreme weather conditions. The only shoe that would be ideally suited to particularly wet weather would be the Snowdon boot, which are constructed with waterproof uppers and bellows and a heavy commando sole.

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Originally Posted by apropos

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...it's also fugly.

+1

Originally Posted by jrd617

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According to Bodiley's, the Chepstow IS NOT storm-welted:

Does storm welted actually make that much of a difference for the winter time, meaning when walking through snow, and or rain?

-LR

Originally Posted by JohnnyCrockett

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Rider uses sestrerererere (whatever they're called) faux Dainite soles. Any experience with them? Are they as good as Dainite? Note that Rider is not goodyear welted (nor storm welted)
I've had a pair of Rider's chukkas w/ the sestriere sole for a couple years and some AS shoes w/ dainite soles for longer. I don't think I've noticed a difference between the two. Both are great.

Originally Posted by TRINI

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They're not 'faux' Dainite. Dainite is a manufacturer of rubber soles. Ron uses a different manufacter/brand.
I think you're right that both makers produce different types of soles, but dainite is best known for the sole with the little round "studs," and I'm pretty sure that they are the original designers of this pattern, which some love and some hate.

Originally Posted by jrd617

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I just realized that I had forgotten about the Alden chukka. Comes in a wide fitting. It's better priced than the Chepstow, comes in a waterproof leather, and less formal looking. I like the flat toe on the Chepstow more, but it's a good trade off. Lug sole is good for snow. This thing is storm welted, right?...
When I was looking to get a chukka w/ a rubber sole, I considered the Alden chukkas. But I didn't get them for a couple reasons (1) I didn't know how resolable the sole in the model you posted is, and I wanted a dressier leather, (2) the goodyear welted models they have with the "commando sole" have leather in the center of the sole and I needed rubber there since I commuted by bicycle and my pedals destroyed leather in that exact area. and (3) in the lasts Aden chukkas come in, they didn't fit me as well as Riders or AS. As for storm welts, I'm not sure they make a big difference, since (1) many so-called storm welts are there simply for looks (Bengalstripe could explain this much better than I could, and probably has already if you search.) and (2) I've been in the rain all day wearing the Rider chukkas and they've never leaked. Not from the soles or leather at least. When I ride a motorcycle, I sometimes get water leaking down the top. Chukkas aren't very tall. That's why I have a balmoral boot or two in the works at AS. Edit: Coincidentally, here is a recent thread on fake welting. There have been other good ones before as well.