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post #271 of 481
The shipping weight on my package lists as 3.4 lbs. I had ordered a pair of the Camden monks awhile ago to try out the sizing (ended up returning them), and the package was 6.0 lbs according to FedEx.
post #272 of 481
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Originally Posted by saint
Actually this would be a good case study in the rational behaviour of Styleforum members. Polo essentially gave us a free option: free shipping and the shoes can be returned for free to any Polo store. Given that there was no transaction cost, we had no reason not to order the shoes to see if it was a great deal or not.

Actually, transaction-cost economists would argue that going to a B&M store to return them, to say nothing of posting here about the shoes for hours , represent significant transaction costs. I suggest however that the externalities generated by the entertainment value of this thread (it's f'ckin hilarious!) easily offset any transaction costs.

Nonetheless, the herd behavior exhibited by the shoe buyers in this thread is indeed quite strong. I haven't spent $300+ on shoes in at least 10 years (back when I was single ) and were it not for the fact that Polo does not ship to Canada, I would have ordered a pair too. While many members spend far more than that on shoes a regular basis, I suspect that for many people who ordered the Corben, this is a substantial purchase and their first EG shoe, albeit a great deal assuming they are EG.
post #273 of 481
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Originally Posted by gdl203
The only shoes that come up in Google's cache for "Ralph Lauren Corben" is that shoe by the way...
here and here...

Try Edward Green Stern and you'll get even less
post #274 of 481
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Originally Posted by EL72
Nonetheless, the herd behavior exhibited by the shoe buyers in this thread is indeed quite strong. I haven't spent $300+ on shoes in at least 10 years (back when I was single ) and were it not for the fact that Polo does not ship to Canada, I would have ordered a pair too. While many members spend far more than that on shoes a regular basis, I suspect that for many people who ordered the Corben, this is a substantial purchase and their first EG shoe, albeit a great deal assuming they are EG.

I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

Actually, rethinking it, it's probably because noone knows what they look like that everyone went for them. If there was a reliable picture of the shoes, then half the people would have dropped out for taste reasons.
post #275 of 481
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Originally Posted by arced
I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

I'd say it would be crazy only if the shoes weren't returnable. At worst, you're out $5. At best, you've gotten the best retail price on EGs I've ever seen. As far as bets go, this one is unbeatable.

And really, these shoes aren't even sight unseen. There was a picture, and a description that matched the picture in every detail save for the type of leather. And there's been nothing to suggest they aren't PL shoes. Even if they're not EGs, PL laceups at $260 would be a huge steal.

Is there a possibility the shoes won't be what everyone is hoping? Yes. But to me, it's no different than ordering any pair of shoes online. Will they fit? Maybe, maybe not. Will they look as good in person? Maybe, maybe not. It's just part of the online shopping experience -- there's always a risk.
post #276 of 481
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday
I'd say it would be crazy only if the shoes weren't returnable. At worst, you're out $5. At best, you've gotten the best retail price on EGs I've ever seen. As far as bets go, this one is unbeatable.
I don't think it's anywhere irrational. To add to what Doc said that there's essentially no risk unless Polo goes out of business tomorrow, I think that people who bought this as part of the "herd" know what they're doing. For example, this is a suede oxford and not something as versatile as a dark oak cap toe, and I posit that anyone buying this as their first EG either:

1) Has learned a lot from the forum and already has a good basic shoe wardrobe, hence sees this as a good opportunity to upgrade from a novel direction.

2) May still be getting the basic shoe wardrobe together but have become aware of the value purchasing what could be an EG for approx. $260.

I bought my first EGs almost a year ago when there was a similar forum frenzy over Polo.com, and they were my first dress shoes purchased after high school. I spent more than I thought I would have, but am very happy and am confident I can use what I bought for the next few decades of my career. I am also confident that I have the basics together and have the luxury of holding out for only the best bargains.
post #277 of 481
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Originally Posted by arced
what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like!
On the contrary. A number of us have seen PL suede oxfords in the big Ralph Lauren stores.
post #278 of 481
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Originally Posted by arced
I agree with this (especially as this is arguably my first EG purchase), but what amazes me (and horrifies myself) is that noone has any idea what they look like! It's one thing for a herd mentality about a known item, but to get this many people buying the shoes because they could, possibly, be made by EG is pretty crazy.

Actually, rethinking it, it's probably because noone knows what they look like that everyone went for them. If there was a reliable picture of the shoes, then half the people would have dropped out for taste reasons.

Calf or suede, I think everyone is assuming they are the laceups pictured and people are buying because it's EG for 1/3 normal retail. Given what $300 gets you these days (not a heck of a lot), it's a price that many can seemingly justify paying for what are probably the best RTW shoes on the market while they could not justify paying $900.
post #279 of 481
5.3 lbs here (though i did order a polo and boxers, too). After the statement from EG that their shoe (the mythical stern) was renamed the corben, isn't the only real question at this point what type of leather it will come in? I'm praying for suede, myself.
post #280 of 481
Your points are well taken. I think we can safely assume that an EG put out by RL won't be ugly and will probably be pretty useful. Nonetheless, what percent do you think will return them if they turn out not to be EG? That was the prime lure for me. If they're another maker, I'll have to think a lot more about whether I'll keep them or not. And then there's the fit question...
post #281 of 481
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Originally Posted by josepidal
Dear Mr Franklin, Sorry the 'Corben' is not an EG style. Trust you are
enjoying Boston. Sincerely, Hilary Freeman

(I am confused as hell now and clarified with Hilary that another EG person informed me it was actually the "Stern".)

Gehrig,
There's still a lot of confusion on whether it's EG or not. I'm thinking it's doubtful, but...
post #282 of 481
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Originally Posted by gehrig
isn't the only real question at this point what type of leather it will come in?
If you trust Helen Bateman from EG, it's mink suede, a dark brown color.
post #283 of 481
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Originally Posted by josepidal
If you trust Helen Bateman from EG, ...

Do you?
post #284 of 481
Yes. They've been accurate in the past, and I think there really is confusion about the name "Corben", as indicated by the last letter which is from Hilary Freeman herself, not Helen.

But we'll see... as Doc said, at worst, we lose $5 for the hilarity of all this. Consider that since the Asprey feeding frenzy was through phone order, we never got to see SF in action and hear reports of sizes running out in real time.
post #285 of 481
I think it'll be C&J, which will still be a great deal, but not EGs, based on the leather type they describe. Of course, I won't complain if they turn out to be EGs... we'll see.
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