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J.Crew White Oaks Selvedge Review

post #1 of 105
11/1/10 at 6:07pm
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I've been wearing a pair of the Levi's for J.Crew selvedge 501's (salt soak rinse) for about 2 1/2 months and wanted to give a little review of them.
Over all I like them. I got them august 16th and have worn them pretty much ever day since. The denim is almost 14oz, and is a nice dark color. They aren't raw....they're sanforized, but the color is still nice and dark. The jeans were made in Mexico, but the denim is from Cone Mills' White Oak Plant in North Carolina. The quality of the denim is nice. The sizing is standard Levi's sizing. The fit is a little different than normal STF's. From the knee down, the leg is a bit looser....but they aren't baggy either. I actually like the fit a lot.
Like I said, I've been wearing these a lot and they have been breaking in nice...and starting to fade good.
I don't know if they are THE BEST for the money, but I've been happy with them. If these were made in the US, they would be near perfect. But even without that they've got a lot going for them:
1. They're Levi's...the first to make blue jeans.
2. They're 501's...again, the original.
3. The color is nice and dark...good alternative to unsanforized.
4. The denim is from Cone Mills...where the originals were made.
5. The denim's from the White Oak plant, which uses the old machines and is known for nice denim.

They get a thumbs up from me.
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post #2 of 105
11/1/10 at 6:10pm
This didn't really need its own thread.
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post #3 of 105
11/1/10 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by zackwool View Post
I've been wearing a pair of the Levi's for J.Crew selvedge 501's (salt soak rinse) for about 2 1/2 months and wanted to give a little review of them. Over all I like them. I got them august 16th and have worn them pretty much ever day since. The denim is almost 14oz, and is a nice dark color. They aren't raw....they're sanforized, but the color is still nice and dark. The jeans were made in Mexico, but the denim is from Cone Mills' White Oak Plant in North Carolina. The quality of the denim is nice. The sizing is standard Levi's sizing. The fit is a little different than normal STF's. From the knee down, the leg is a bit looser....but they aren't baggy either. I actually like the fit a lot. Like I said, I've been wearing these a lot and they have been breaking in nice...and starting to fade good. They get a thumbs up from me.
I like them a lot. These are the same selvedge 514's Levis sells for $ 98 but with a way nicer rinse. It's the same rinse that J Crew uses on the 484's. Glad they're working out so well for you. Thanks for the review.
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post #4 of 105
11/1/10 at 6:49pm
the pics you posted are goddamned fantastic. great threak!!!
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post #5 of 105
11/1/10 at 6:57pm
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I've been wearing a pair of the Levi's for J.Crew selvedge 501's (salt soak rinse) for about 2 1/2 months and wanted to give a little review of them. Over all I like them. I got them august 16th and have worn them pretty much ever day since. The denim is almost 14oz, and is a nice dark color. They aren't raw....they're sanforized, but the color is still nice and dark. The jeans were made in Mexico, but the denim is from Cone Mills' White Oak Plant in North Carolina. The quality of the denim is nice. The sizing is standard Levi's sizing. The fit is a little different than normal STF's. From the knee down, the leg is a bit looser....but they aren't baggy either. I actually like the fit a lot. Like I said, I've been wearing these a lot and they have been breaking in nice...and starting to fade good. I don't know if they are THE BEST for the money, but I've been happy with them. If these were made in the US, they would be near perfect. But even without that they've got a lot going for them: 1. They're Levi's...the first to make blue jeans. 2. They're 501's...again, the original. 3. The color is nice and dark...good alternative to unsanforized. 4. The denim is from Cone Mills...where the originals were made. 5. The denim's from the White Oak plant, which uses the old machines and is known for nice denim. They get a thumbs up from me.
yeah, this did not need a new thread you should have checked out left field denim! out of curiosity, why would these be "near perfect" if they were made in the states? just curious....
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post #6 of 105
11/1/10 at 8:31pm
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Originally Posted by zackwool View Post
1. They're Levi's...the first to make blue jeans.
Uh, no...
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2. They're 501's...again, the original.
sort of...
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4. The denim is from Cone Mills...where the originals were made.
Definitely not.
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post #7 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:05pm
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In 1915 Cone Mills became Levi's denim source...it wasn't exclusive but by 1922 it was.

Levi's patented the rivet and was the first to make a riveted "waste overall" (we call the jeans now).

So, yes, denim came from other sources earlier on...but pretty much when "waste overalls" came into existence Cone Mills was the sole supplier.

So, the jeans are from the company that invented the blue jeans and the denim is from the mill that made the originals. (when LVC uses denim for their reproductions, it comes from Cone Mills because that's where the originals were made.

For me the perfect jeans has to do with historical accuracy, quality, and authenticity. Is there better denim from overseas....yep. And I have a pair of awesome KMW's as well....but they lack the Americana authenticity IMO.

So, IMO the perfect jeans would be made in the USA by Levi's with Cone Mills selvedge denim and they would be 501s. These are all those except the Made in USA part. I didn't have money to drop on some 47 or 55 LVCs. But those would obviously be "perfect" to me.

I have a great appreciation for authenticity and history....that's why I go with Levi's. If I'm wrong about Levi's, then please let me know who was making riveted jeans before them.
Thanks.
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post #8 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:11pm
Wow, I learned so much from this review. Ok, so you bought a pair of Levi's, and your general review is they are good because they are in fact Levi's, and thats about it. Who the fuck do you think you are here, the Roger Ebert of jeans? Can you review my underwear next if I mail you some? I hope it gets a thumbs up too.
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post #9 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:13pm
I always wanted to use one of these..
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post #10 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:22pm
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No...I was simply responding to this post:

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Originally Posted by zackwool View Post
1. They're Levi's...the first to make blue jeans.
Uh, no...
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2. They're 501's...again, the original.
sort of...
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4. The denim is from Cone Mills...where the originals were made.
Definitely not.

Sorry for wasting your time.
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post #11 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:45pm
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Originally Posted by zackwool View Post
In 1915 Cone Mills became Levi's denim source...it wasn't exclusive but by 1922 it was. Levi's patented the rivet and was the first to make a riveted "waste overall" (we call the jeans now). So, yes, denim came from other sources earlier on...but pretty much when "waste overalls" came into existence Cone Mills was the sole supplier. So, the jeans are from the company that invented the blue jeans and the denim is from the mill that made the originals. (when LVC uses denim for their reproductions, it comes from Cone Mills because that's where the originals were made. I have a great appreciation for authenticity and history....that's why I go with Levi's. If I'm wrong about Levi's, then please let me know who was making riveted jeans before them. Thanks.
If you really want to get technical, the 501, which was first called the XX first appeared in or around 1873. There were certainly 'blue jeans' before then. Jacob Davis first made riveted blue jeans (work pants) prior to applying for a patent with Levi Strauss in 1873. From 1873-1922, the denim came from Amoskeag, not Cone. I'm guessing Levis chose Cone for LVC partly because of the history, but I'm sure the fact that Amoskeag closed down in '35 might have had something to do with it. Shipping cotton from the South up to NH didn't make financial sense when there were mills like Cone so close to where the cotton was grown. I'm not by any means questioning your choice in jeans. Wear whatever you want.
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post #12 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:48pm
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If you really want to get technical, the 501, which was first called the XX first appeared in or around 1873. There were certainly 'blue jeans' before then. Jacob Davis first made riveted blue jeans (work pants) prior to applying for a patent with Levi Strauss in 1873. From 1873-1922, the denim came from Amoskeag, not Cone. I'm guessing Levis chose Cone for LVC partly because of the history, but I'm sure the fact that Amoskeag closed down in '35 might have had something to do with it. Shipping cotton from the South up to NH didn't make financial sense when there were mills like Cone so close to where the cotton was grown.

I'm not by any means questioning your choice in jeans. Wear whatever you want.

Owned.
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post #13 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:55pm
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Originally Posted by zissou View Post
If you really want to get technical, the 501, which was first called the XX first appeared in or around 1873. There were certainly 'blue jeans' before then. Jacob Davis first made riveted blue jeans (work pants) prior to applying for a patent with Levi Strauss in 1873. From 1873-1922, the denim came from Amoskeag, not Cone. I'm guessing Levis chose Cone for LVC partly because of the history, but I'm sure the fact that Amoskeag closed down in '35 might have had something to do with it. Shipping cotton from the South up to NH didn't make financial sense when there were mills like Cone so close to where the cotton was grown. I'm not by any means questioning your choice in jeans. Wear whatever you want.
Bitch, you just got served!
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post #14 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:55pm
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Thanks man (whether that was your quote or not).
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post #15 of 105
11/1/10 at 9:56pm
Jesus, you lot sure are insufferable pricks. Give the guy a break. Besides, another denim thread is not going to make the board implode.
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