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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

Geneva is fine. And a decent value assuming their prices haven't gone up in the past 18months. But the craftmanship as it were isn't really anything special one way or another.

I agree that Geneva is is not special in terms of craftsmanship or unique. They do work hard to get the fit right and are an excellent value for CMT and only an OK value for their cloth (at least when I was using them heavily a few years back).
post #3662 of 3928
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Originally Posted by sugarbutch View Post

I'm not a boxing fan, but c'mon, pB. That's just popular culture stuff.

Do you like any sports?



Popular culture? Really? The only thing it reminded me of was it is the name of a cool bar in Brooklyn.

No I don't like sports.

Oh wait, maybe drinking if that counts.
post #3663 of 3928
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

I would bet my "disposable" shirts last at least as long, overall, as many delicate luxury cloths -- even those treated to hand washing and the tender caresses of artisanal cleaners.

The point of nicer cloth isn't really longevity unless you're comparing it to really really cheap stuff but that's a funny comparison to make.

A good quality 120s will hang better and look better throughout the day. Beyond that level, I think the cloth starts to feel a bit more fragile and not hold up as well and I don't see any incremental value in how the cloth performs.

But I'll happily take my beloved Alumo 120s over anything that might last longer, at least when it comes to poplins.
post #3664 of 3928
Honestly the oldest shirt I have was made with this no name fabric that one of Frank's tailors bought from a random cloth merchant when he took a trip to Egypt. I am pissed because it is seriously awesome stuff and has held up better than anything I have encountered so far.
post #3665 of 3928
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Originally Posted by aportnoy View Post


I agree that Geneva is is not special in terms of craftsmanship or unique. They do work hard to get the fit right and are an excellent value for CMT and only an OK value for their cloth .

+1

post #3666 of 3928
I moved to custom shirts a few years ago as the armholes on RTW were just not working even if I altered the waist/arm length. That said, I also can't imagine spending $400 on a shirt when my suits are made for about double that. I send my shirts to the best local laundry service and they hang dry and do a decent job ironing. The odd button needs replacing but that is a small price to pay for the convenience.

My experience is that shirts, while not quite as disposable as socks/underwear/undershirts, have a limited life based on the probability of some kind of spill/stain that ends their effective life before they begin to fray. I have thrown out a few shirts which had no permanent stain but would say the majority suffered an early death from coffee, wine, soy sauce, etc.

As a result I try to find decent quality shirts made to measure or bespoke as a reasonable average price and hope to get 20+ wears.
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Strange you say this. I have never had an issue getting out stains on shirts.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Strange you say this. I have never had an issue getting stains on shirts.

FTFY
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What do you people do in your shirts!?
post #3670 of 3928
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

Strange you say this. I have never had an issue getting out stains on shirts.

Yeah - my experience is the stains fade quite a bit never quite disappear. Mybe it's the hard Canadian water.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

What do you people do in your shirts!?

Have you seen Bad Lieutenant?
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The original one is amazing. Haven't seen the Cage one.
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Originally Posted by patrickBOOTH View Post

The original one is amazing. Haven't seen the Cage one.

Cage movie has a totally different vibe but still not bad.
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Originally Posted by bourbonbasted View Post

I don't own any of his work, and also don't want to crap up this thread (more), but Carl (shirtmaven) at CEGO has gotten some great reviews...

Lurk.

It's what you need to do MOAR.
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post

That's one reason I don't wear bespoke shirts. Buy, alter, wear, toss. I'm only into clothing to the point it becomes an inconvenience.

I have to agree to a point; if I can't get more than 15-20 wears from a bespoke shirt I'm not going to go further along this path. The bulk of my shirts are MTM Truzzi and Mastai Ferretti and I've washed these I don't know how many times. They hold up very well although a few could use a change of cuffs and collar (I understand this can be done by sending them back to the factory but I have not tried this service). We'll see how the NSM bespoke shirts do after a dozen washes on the "hand wash" program.

Thanks for all your input guys, sorry for derailing this thread into a shirt washing discussion. smile.gif
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