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post #2416 of 3961
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Originally Posted by Lovelace View Post

I know, but he is asking for opinions on here. The best, most level headed opinion would come from a tailor, who actually knows what he is talking about. One such sartorial god posts on here I beleive.
I learned this when I had my first suit made.

The best opinion would be from the person that actually made the suit and can look at it in person. If OP is asking for an opinion on whether the suit looks good or not then fine - he's got that. Numerous posters have confirmed his suspicion that the suit needs work.

But as far as what needs to be done to it, it is best diagnosed and remedied by the person who made it. If they can't or won't fix it, then at that point you can talk about what to do about it.
post #2417 of 3961
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

The best opinion would be from the person that actually made the suit and can look at it in person. If OP is asking for an opinion on whether the suit looks good or not then fine - he's got that. Numerous posters have confirmed his suspicion that the suit needs work.

But as far as what needs to be done to it, it is best diagnosed and remedied by the person who made it. If they can't or won't fix it, then at that point you can talk about what to do about it.

Again, I know, but he is soliciting advice on here, and Despos is the person best able to offer that advice, on here.
post #2418 of 3961
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

Grab a few ties as you storm out.

Alpha. Move.
Or at least demand a bunch of free stuff. It's the SF way.
post #2419 of 3961
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Originally Posted by coolpapa View Post

Or at least demand a bunch of free stuff. It's the SF way.

Demanding is too genteel. If you want to be a bawss, you've got to pillage.


All this talk of trusting a tailor is nonsense. Here's what you do--

As soon as you put the jacket on, before she starts the fitting, start ripping seams apart yourself. That (one) shows who's in charge and (two) allows you to more easily repin things (yourself, obviously) to how someone on the internet said they should be.

I really don't think you can go wrong with that approach. I'm 97% sure that's how the Duke of Windsor did it.
Edited by Cantabrigian - 2/21/13 at 5:18pm
post #2420 of 3961
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

Demanding is too genteel. If you want to be a bawss, you've got to pillage.


All this talk of trusting a tailor is nonsense. Here's what you do--

As soon as you put the jacket on, before she starts the fitting, start ripping seams apart yourself. That (one) show's who's in charge and (two) allow you to more easily repin things (yourself, obviously) to how someone on the internet said they should be.

I really don't think you can go wrong with that approach. I'm 97% sure that's how the Duke of Windsor did it.

The Dook had his valet do it for him.
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Among the tailors who disliked customer direction, none was more notorious than The Duke's own tailor Frederick Scholte.
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Among the tailors who disliked customer direction, none was more notorious than The Duke's own tailor Frederick Scholte.

No tailor likes to be directed, its an insult in a way.
post #2423 of 3961
I bring my own salt and pepper shakers to Daniel and Per Se. Those pesky chefs offend so easily.
post #2424 of 3961
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Among the tailors who disliked customer direction, none was more notorious than The Duke's own tailor Frederick Scholte.
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Originally Posted by Lovelace View Post

No tailor likes to be directed, its an insult in a way.

Damn straight. SR tailors, particularly so, in my experience. They listen, but if they think it's far-fetched, they politely disagree. Much better than tailors who acquiesce to the (ignorant) customer's every whim, and produce a disastrous item. I've seen so many poor pieces as a result of tailors blindly agreeing to the customers' fancies because they're paying.

I think that a better approach is to stop saying "I want ...' and then rattle off a list of points one has picked up from SF. Rather, foster a conversation, and ask 'What do you think about X ... why do you think so? How would it work for me?' More productive, enlightening, and builds a better r/s.
Edited by bboysdontcryy - 2/21/13 at 3:07pm
post #2425 of 3961
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Originally Posted by whnay. View Post

Looks like shit dude, I'd ask for a remake or a refund.

Another SF darling ousted.
post #2426 of 3961
You fools have all been trolled. haha.
post #2427 of 3961
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Originally Posted by teddieriley View Post

You fools have all been trolled. haha.

Was actually starting to think the same thing myself...
post #2428 of 3961
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Originally Posted by Ich_Dien View Post


Another SF darling ousted.

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post #2429 of 3961
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Despos is a tailor...but, talented as he is, he is limited by looking at a handful of still photos as opposed to seeing the suit in person, and also by the fact that it's a suit built by someone else.

Again, by far the best solution is to go to Mina herself. Explain what you don't like, and let her try to fix it.

If there's one thing I've heard tailors (I'm not talking about Mina in particular, this is near universal) complain about more than ANYTHING in customer interactions, it's customers trying to tell them how to do their jobs. I don't mean in the sense of responding to customer requests for a wider lapel or more shaping in the chest or things like that. I mean customers who come in with a list of alterations that they got from somebody on the internet - even if this someone is actually a tailor, but then usually it's not - and are now relaying to their tailor as, "OK, I need this taken in by 1 cm, then this part needs to be stitched in such and such a way, etc., etc.."

They take pride in their work and want to make you happy. If you tell them, "this part looks messy/feels to tight/looks this way when I wanted it another way," they will do their best to accommodate you, within reason. But they, like other people who take pride in their work, will resent being micromanaged, especially in a way that implies that they don't know what they're doing.

In principle yes, but as I understand with their clients not visiting Naples, the "tailor" actually doing the suits (cutting, sewing etc) is not the one seeing you and will still work and make assesment off pictures, albeit with some extra annotation I guess from the owners present at the fitting. This is not the same of interacting directly with the headcutter or mastertailor. I have had basting ripped apart and ripinned there and then at first fitting in addition to the usual chalk marks from my tailor and he could make an assesment there and then on what needed to be done to "build the coat on me".

therefore Despos comments could be as beneficial for reinforcing some very visible defect, but indeed may not pick up other underlining issues not visible in pictures.
post #2430 of 3961
Mina will also repin at fittings, at least things like length and buttoning point. Also they take a bunch of video at the fittings.
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