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post #16 of 32
I read an interview with Wilbert Das, Diesels artistic director. About going upmarket, he says "Over the past few years, which label hasn't positioned itself in our market sector between sportswear and design? At the moment there's something that's right in fashion. We're seeing an increasing number of fashion weeks and designers, while mass-market companies like H&M and Zara exploit other people's ideas at record speed. The only method of escaping them is by going upmarket, by making high-quality products that are constantly being renewed so that copies can't arrive in other stores before we have time to make the originals." He also says they are changing their bag and shoes line to be more upmarket, using better leathers and such. I think that you can already see these changes in their current collection. The pieces and themes seem more connected and there is somewhat less branding. Also, the bags right now are made of leather that is heavy as hell. Most are a little too chunky for me, but I saw a messenger that was superb. Only branding was a small diesel D (like on the jeans back pockets) that was about 1"x1". I liked it a lot...
post #17 of 32
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We're seeing an increasing number of fashion weeks and designers, while mass-market companies like H&M and Zara exploit other people's ideas at record speed.

Don't many of us also view Diesel as producer of mass-market(albeit somewhat expensive) denim products?

Diesel also latched onto the skinny denim train way behind other makers. Their tight thanaz cut just start to appear in the 2006 a/w collection.
post #18 of 32
to me its just not worth the price. for what they go for here i could get a pair of cannes from japan, or a pair of apc with money left over. ive tried them on and was not too impressed... thier cuts dont work for me since i am very long waisted... i need a long rise.
post #19 of 32
I saw a show at the Mission Gallery in London about 1997 that Diesel designers put on documenting their influences - there were sketchbooks and textiles but the most interesting things there were the images and objects designers had collected for inspiration on their travels. I've never owned a single piece. I worked in a shop that sold it once though, and the women's cuts seemed alright.
post #20 of 32
My 2 cents:

I've got 4 pairs of Diesels: Zaf's, Zathans, Kurats and Shazors
None are more than a year old but they've all been worn on a regular basis and have held up great. I didn't pay more than $100 for any of them, so I'm pretty happy about that.

I just bought a pair of Diesel shoes because I had a gift card that I needed to spend - I've gotten more compliments on them than I have anything else!
post #21 of 32
Diesel, IMO, makes the best pair of pre-washed jeans that you can buy. They have dozens of cuts and washes that aren't super distressed, just with tasteful fading or whiskers. I don't mind the simple "converged" back pocket design when it is stencil-thin, but they do go out of control sometimes. Of course, that's the best thing about Diesel: they have so many cuts and washes that anyone can find what they want.

I've sold all of my Diesel jeans but not out of any dislike. I'm hunting like a motherfucker for a pair of Zathan 83L in 32x32 BNWT, because it's soft and classy. And there's something about that classic Diesel coin-pocket logo that still appeals to me.

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Originally Posted by cheapmutha
to me its just not worth the price. for what they go for here i could get a pair of cannes from japan, or a pair of apc with money left over. ive tried them on and was not too impressed... thier cuts dont work for me since i am very long waisted... i need a long rise.

True, but raw denim doesn't fit in every situation.
post #22 of 32
That's just not true at all. Diesel's washes are nothing special, and the stuff coming out of Earnest Sewn is worlds better than anything I've ever seen from Diesel in basically every way.
post #23 of 32
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Originally Posted by blank
Diesel, IMO, makes the best pair of pre-washed jeans that you can buy. They have dozens of cuts and washes that aren't super distressed, just with tasteful fading or whiskers. I don't mind the simple "converged" back pocket design when it is stencil-thin, but they do go out of control sometimes. Of course, that's the best thing about Diesel: they have so many cuts and washes that anyone can find what they want. I've sold all of my Diesel jeans but not out of any dislike. I'm hunting like a motherfucker for a pair of Zathan 83L in 32x32 BNWT, because it's soft and classy. And there's something about that classic Diesel coin-pocket logo that still appeals to me. True, but raw denim doesn't fit in every situation.
IMO ES are better, and 5EP are significantly better quality than Diesel, although Diesel aren't too bad compared to some... (R&R, TR, etc...)
post #24 of 32
Perhaps "best pair" is hyperbolic, but I think in most cases I'd choose it over a pair of ES. The 5EP worn's are very nice, too, but there's only one wash in two cuts, so not as much choice. There are literally hundreds of possible Diesel washed jeans to buy. I only like a few of them, but I like more of those than most other pre-washed.
post #25 of 32
Diesel is my favorite jeans brand. I have Zathans and Quaratts and enjoy both styles for different reasons. They hold up really well and some are over 4 years old. I still wear 'em b/c I love them. I think a lot of it is also from when I was younger and always wanted some but couldn't afford them. Now that I can I really do relish them. I think they're SOOO cool. /end nerd-gush
post #26 of 32
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Originally Posted by drizzt3117
IMO ES are better, and 5EP are significantly better quality than Diesel, although Diesel aren't too bad compared to some... (R&R, TR, etc...)
5EP makes much better jeans; the pictures I've seen of their washes, however, have left something to be desired. Earnest Sewn makes some really nice jeans, though there's definitely better. In terms of washes and predistressing, though, they are second to none.
post #27 of 32
My oldest pair of jeans is a pair of Kratts (?) I got back I think in 98. Washed a million times and still going strong. I cant comment on todays Diesels but those were gold.
post #28 of 32
Every once in a while theres a pair of Diesels that turns my head, and make me turn back after seeing the price tag.
post #29 of 32
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Originally Posted by Arethusa
5EP makes much better jeans; the pictures I've seen of their washes, however, have left something to be desired.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. They only have one wash, the dark worn, and IMO its pretty true to what a jean would look like if actually worn for some period of time (placement of the honeycombs, etc.)

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Earnest Sewn makes some really nice jeans, though there's definitely better. In terms of washes and predistressing, though, they are second to none.

I'd agree with this.

Some of Nudie's washed jeans are actually quite nice as well and can be purchased very inexpensively online. I'd certainly put the quality of their denim and washes as higher than Diesel. I own the Bootcut OLA and RR in Basic Dark Used.
post #30 of 32
I also think Nudies and Earnest Sewn make some of the nicest looking distresstings. Nothing overboard but just right.
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