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post #31 of 45
Link please. This sounds bogus and a quick and dirty search reveals nothing. Men's Health isn't exactly Nature or Science. Oh yeah, and there's a study that shows that 45.3% of statstics are simply made up numbers.
post #32 of 45
Without reading the study it hard to tell what type of research design was used, but I don't see any valid connection of required dress and test performance.
post #33 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by coatandthai
Link please. This sounds bogus and a quick and dirty search reveals nothing. Men's Health isn't exactly Nature or Science. Oh yeah, and there's a study that shows that 45.3% of statstics are simply made up numbers.

Link? I got it out of the magazine. There are still people that read paper magazines out there.

Here's a citation for you: Men's Health, September 2006, "Clothes Make the Mind," pg. 56.

I am very insulted that you would imply that I'm making this up. Disagreeing with the blurb is one thing, but implying that I'm making the blurb up is quite another. Shame on you.
post #34 of 45
Harvard is a bit of a business now, so I suspect they're pandering to mainstream ideas about casual dress, and replicating it in some post-modernist psychological study on college students who are not generally known for their sartorial splendor.
post #35 of 45
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Originally Posted by designprofessor
Sweat suits in public unless you are training tell the world -"that's it, I've given up.."
A lot of fat women with vague facial hair, and people you suspect have suicide hotlines on speed-dial wear sweats out about town.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by LabelKing
Harvard is a bit of a business now, so I suspect they're pandering to mainstream ideas about casual dress, and replicating it in some post-modernist psychological study on college students who are not generally known for their sartorial splendor.

That's actually the first thing I thought when I read it too.
post #37 of 45
I'm not saying YOU made it up, I'm doubting the source. I googled the guy's name and the topic and found nothing. You can see a story in USA Today that says "a Harvard study found that . . . " and you read the study and it says no such thing. Testing people for cognitive abilty as correlated (not caused) to clothing seems very questionable for Harvard to study. Contrary to other postings, Harvard does not do things willy nilly, especially where its reputation could be injured. Men's Health, on the other hand, is the equivalent to Mademoiselle and Elle for women -- you know, "10 easy steps to a better love life" and "flat abs for summer in just 1 week."
post #38 of 45
I wouldn't necessairly be surprised by the results of this study although I would focus on the tie itself rather than the suit. Most likely, those students were wearing a shirt and tie with those suits. Vascular constricition caused by tight ties would lead to decreased blood flow to the brain and sensory organs like the eyes ( Human Factors (Vol. 29, pp. 67-71)). If we accept that there's decreased blood flow to the brain from wearing a tie, and we know that the brain needs fresh flow of blood to function, then I don't think its out of line to suggest that wearing something that would decrease that bloodflow would also result in a brain functioning below its capabilities. I would have liked to have that study also test students wearing suits but not wearing a tie at the same time.
post #39 of 45
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Originally Posted by Strokeman
Oxford exams require subfusc: dark suit, black socks and shoes, white shirt and collar, and white bow tie. Mortarboards to be carried and not worn.

Don't forget your scholar's gown and carnation.
post #40 of 45
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Originally Posted by coatandthai
Men's Health, on the other hand, is the equivalent to Mademoiselle and Elle for women -- you know, "10 easy steps to a better love life" and "flat abs for summer in just 1 week."

Which is exactly why some of you are taking this way too seriously. On the other hand, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that this study could be correct. I mean, why's it so hard to believe that it's easier to perform better cognitively when you are more comfortable? As much as many of the members here say that their Borrelli and Kiton suits feel like a second skin, for most people, sweats are a lot more comfortable than a suit. Even if you're wearing a nice suit, just having a belt strapped around your waist is uncomfortable. Also, no matter how expensive your Edward Greens are, they're not going to be as comfortable as a good pair of sneakers (again, for the vast majority of people in the world). I don't see why you think this is beyond the realm of possibility or probability.
post #41 of 45
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Originally Posted by chobochobo
Don't forget your scholar's gown and carnation.

Ha yes, though my gown was of the more garden variety and I never bothered with the carnation. Much more important was getting out on the last day, avoiding the flour and egg bombs, and making one's way the Turf for a celebratory drink or four. Ah, those were the days
post #42 of 45
I wonder how the president would look delivering the State of the Nation address in sweats.
post #43 of 45
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Originally Posted by odoreater
Which is exactly why some of you are taking this way too seriously. On the other hand, I don't see why it's so hard to believe that this study could be correct. I mean, why's it so hard to believe that it's easier to perform better cognitively when you are more comfortable? As much as many of the members here say that their Borrelli and Kiton suits feel like a second skin, for most people, sweats are a lot more comfortable than a suit. Even if you're wearing a nice suit, just having a belt strapped around your waist is uncomfortable. Also, no matter how expensive your Edward Greens are, they're not going to be as comfortable as a good pair of sneakers (again, for the vast majority of people in the world). I don't see why you think this is beyond the realm of possibility or probability.

Blasphemy!
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by Strokeman
Ha yes, though my gown was of the more garden variety and I never bothered with the carnation. Much more important was getting out on the last day, avoiding the flour and egg bombs, and making one's way the Turf for a celebratory drink or four. Ah, those were the days

I thought that the flour (no eggs, salmonella scare at the time) bombs were fun Finding the right colour carnations was fun, as was trying to tie your bow tie on the morning of the exams. Also cycling through town in subfusc was always going to turn heads

Yes, it was a great time. A wonderful experience, particularly for someone from a working class background like myself.
post #45 of 45
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Originally Posted by josepidal
I wonder how the president would look delivering the State of the Nation address in sweats.

I don't know, he tends to look terrible enough in suits...
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