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post #61 of 91
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post
Just an idea--and mods, obviously feel free to shoot this down--but I think users (not sellers) should take a little more initiative in giving out bumps .... SF users could benefit from the thread getting bumped to a more visible spot, give the seller a bump.
Bad idea.
post #62 of 91
I don't understand why this is permitted. He was (I think) put in time out for malarky related to his B&S thread. Looks like he's resuming his habit of putting a couple items up for sale and then getting free bumps by adding a single item and then doing modest price drops.
post #63 of 91
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Originally Posted by Matt View Post
There need be only one rule: don't be a jackass.
If only that were the case. Unfortunately, when dealing with the public, one quickly realizes that there are countless jackasses out there. You might often can't tell one just by looking at it, but as soon as it opens its mouth to bray, you know. Bottom line is that you can't count on people to act with common sense and restraint.
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post
but I think users (not sellers) should take a little more initiative in giving out bumps. For instance, if based on past experience you think someone is a great seller, give him a bump if his latest sale is quickly disappearing.
Bad idea.
post #64 of 91
I still don't see why sellers get to bump just because they add new merch. The rule is begging to be gamed. If I have 3 pairs of shoes and a shirt to sell, why would I list them all at once when I know I can add and bump later? Additional merch just doesn't seem newsworthy enough to justify bumping a thread to the top (and another off the bottom that may have legit price drops).

If a seller adds new items, can't they just edit the original title to say ("items added 10/26") or ("Aldens added") or whatever? That way buyers are signalled to re-click on the thread if they are interested in seeing what was added, but no free bump. Of course, they are perfectly welcome to bump--if they buy the bump with a price drop.
post #65 of 91
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Originally Posted by Trapp View Post
I still don't see why sellers get to bump just because they add new merch. The rule is begging to be gamed. If I have 3 pairs of shoes and a shirt to sell, why would I list them all at once when I know I can add and bump later? Additional merch just doesn't seem newsworthy enough to justify bumping a thread to the top (and another off the bottom that may have legit price drops).

If a seller adds new items, can't they just edit the original title to say ("items added 10/26") or ("Aldens added") or whatever? That way buyers are signalled to re-click on the thread if they are interested in seeing what was added, but no free bump. Of course, they are perfectly welcome to bump--if they buy the bump with a price drop.

i think it's easy to be gamed, but at the same time mods will spot it if your always adding new shit in.

it's good for those of us who either were on the fence about selling something, or just realized they had more to sell a couple days later.
post #66 of 91
Nobody's liking the "users should take more initiative in giving bumps" idea, huh. Ah, well, it happens. It's my 2 cents and I'm sticking to it. In the end I think any system is going to have loopholes that people will use to their advantage. Even the drops rule leads to gaming. Like people putting up a pair of jeans for $140 that they want to sell for $125 and then using $5 drops (not even 5%) to keep the thread visible. Whadya gunna do?
post #67 of 91
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Originally Posted by APK View Post
I don't understand why this is permitted. He was (I think) put in time out for malarky related to his B&S thread. Looks like he's resuming his habit of putting a couple items up for sale and then getting free bumps by adding a single item and then doing modest price drops.
I didn't see what he did before but I looked at the thread and it seems kosher. You add an item and you get a bump. So long as he's not doing it daily, where's the problem?
post #68 of 91
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Originally Posted by pickpackpockpuck View Post
Nobody's liking the "users should take more initiative in giving bumps" idea, huh. Ah, well, it happens. It's my 2 cents and I'm sticking to it. In the end I think any system is going to have loopholes that people will use to their advantage. Even the drops rule leads to gaming. Like people putting up a pair of jeans for $140 that they want to sell for $125 and then using $5 drops (not even 5%) to keep the thread visible. Whadya gunna do?
If you bump your thread with less than 5% of a price drop, the mods will forum ban you if they catch you. The mods have also already stated in this thread that if they think you are trying to game the system by exploiting a loophole, they will forum ban you as well.
post #69 of 91
Way to ruin it for the rest of us, you fucking MC-jackals.
post #70 of 91
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Originally Posted by blazingazn View Post
it's good for those of us who either were on the fence about selling something, or just realized they had more to sell a couple days later.

This is why I think I think bumping for added items should be stopped. There's nothing wrong with being on the fence about selling and item, or realizing you have more to sell a couple of days later. But is that deserving of a bump? Add it in and edit the title. If the seller is worried about the visibility of the added items, then price drop.

In terms of board visibility, what's good for one seller is by definition not so good for another. Price drops should trump items added.
post #71 of 91
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Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
I didn't see what he did before but I looked at the thread and it seems kosher. You add an item and you get a bump. So long as he's not doing it daily, where's the problem?

Keep an eye on it. His old thread started the same way and before long, it was like four or five pages that followed this formula: "Added shitty item" -> "Small drop on shitty item" -> "New shitty item added" -> "Small drop on new shitty item"
post #72 of 91
The add bumps are, I think, intended to discourage people from starting a new thread every time they find something else to sell.

It seems to work OK. I don't have a prob with the BRMC Doves thread. If someone is like "Bump. Pile of pencil shavings added." that's a different story.
post #73 of 91
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Originally Posted by shoreman1782 View Post
The add bumps are, I think, intended to discourage people from starting a new thread every time they find something else to sell.

It seems to work OK. I don't have a prob with the BRMC Doves thread. If someone is like "Bump. Pile of pencil shavings added." that's a different story.

that's a very good reason for it.



and I think BRMC Doves was actually temp banned because he posted BS stuff in the official affiliate threads.

i really dont see anything wrong with his threads.
post #74 of 91
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Originally Posted by shoreman1782 View Post
The add bumps are, I think, intended to discourage people from starting a new thread every time they find something else to sell.

It seems to work OK. I don't have a prob with the BRMC Doves thread. If someone is like "Bump. Pile of pencil shavings added." that's a different story.
correct. I don't especially like the rules we have here, mostly because we have to enforce them. In the end what we have had to do is patch up all the ways you guys have tried to cheat the 'dont be a jackass' system. ...and ya, we had issues with guys starting a zillion threads and treating b&s like their own ebay store...so 'add em into your other thread' and bump it so we don't get 19 threads from you, one for each size of the same pair of pants you just bought at Ross to flip. The one that I always go back to was when we had a guy who, in response to the 'only when you drop prices' threw in five cent price drops so he could bump....so we make up a 5% rule. Then we had issues with people starting conversations with themselves about their own items with sock puppets...this led to bannings and a 'all questions must be answered on PM or by editing original posts' rules. Sooo....it's annoying as fuck, ban hammers are being weilded, it's unnecessarily heavy handed, but you guys brought it on yourselves.
post #75 of 91
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Originally Posted by Matt View Post
Sooo....it's annoying as fuck, ban hammers are being weilded, it's unnecessarily heavy handed, but some of you guys brought it on everyone.

FTFY
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