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post #31 of 45
I know J is insistent on authentic navy issue peacoats, but I'm in the opposite camp. "Fashion" peacoats (JCrew, Banana R, Club Monaco etc) arent horribly expensive (as designer ones are) and are made of softer wool or cottons and usually have a better fit, altho alterations might still be necessary but not by much. My fiancee wears a naval peacoat and I hate the thing, the wool feels terrible and scratchy. There are times when I am tempted to hide it.
post #32 of 45
Well, if you are man-enough... you can wear the authentic one. It IS originally military attire.
post #33 of 45
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Originally Posted by Sartorially Challenged
Well, if you are man-enough... you can wear the authentic one. It IS originally military attire.


Well technically speaking the people the military recruits most heavily are hardly men:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,160406,00.html

so...
post #34 of 45
Males of that age USED TO BE called young MEN. Though still young, they were expected to act like and be adults.

I find it odd that our 17 and 18 year olds today are so much larger physically than the similarly-aged young men of, say, 20-30 years ago. But in terms of emotion and mental maturity, they seem to act more childishly than ever.

Shoot, take it back 50-60 years, 16-17 year olds were enlisting in the military by lying about their ages.

They were downright dimunitive by today's standard, but oftend carried heavy loads including a full size battle rifle (much heavier than today's pea shooters) and the attendant ammunition, and walked everywhere while eating a heck of lot less.

I think we coddle our young men and women more today, and they act like infants in response.

My goodness, I just realized I sound like a very old foggie!
post #35 of 45
It's good to know we get our dependable and unbiased information from Fox News.
post #36 of 45
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Originally Posted by Jovan
It's good to know we get our dependable and unbiased information from Fox News.

What about the article was biased? It was pretty straightforward. If anything, it discussed an issue in which many were upset with the government and military. According to prevailing wisdom Fox's alleged bias would cause them to suppress such a story.
post #37 of 45
Alan... I was clearly joking. Relax, man.
post #38 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by 6waters
Hi Soph

If you haven't run across this site yet in your research, you may want to check it out.

http://www.leosleather.com/merchant/index.htm

Leo's is a crammed little shop in Lakeview:

2841 N. Clark St

I also bought one of the leather peacoats a few years back and it was helpful to try it on before buying. The Schott jackets are quite impressive in their own right. They also have US Navy tags sewn in - I am not sure if that is an homage or if they are a real sourceThe shop is not what I expected, it is a tiny storefront and the inside is so crammed full of leather and wool coats that the proprietor has to retrieve the size and model you want. I haven't been in a few years, but it still looks that way when I pass it on the street.




---Well LeosLeather.com in Chicago is our place!
I tried on authentic

1. Navy issue at the army / navy store, the fabric could clean your sink (it is abrasive), its rough and tough. But there is something appealing about that. But .....

2. Schott's (fabric seemed nicer to me)
3. And finally, a Dark Brown Leather Schott Peacott

---The Leather is freaking amazing. The Schott website does it a great injustice. And here was the clencher after going back and forth. Leo BARTERS!!!
Schott website has them at $410.

Leo offered $380 first, so I said I'm not sure and I'd need gloves.
We eventually reached a a deal of $350 for the coat
and 1/2 off the 100% cashmere lined deerskin dark brown gloves that match the jacket perfectly. all for less than $410.!

Bonus: He said he could get Schott wool peacots and sell them for $120 to $125 NEW!
I'll post pics, it definitly pays to try them on. And Schott does an amazing leather peacot.! And I was pretty convinced to get a wool navy and left with the Dark Brown Leather. Great durable leather and nice stitching! It has a very rugged, masculine and high quality leather feel that the Navy wool couldn't match!
post #39 of 45
Was the leather peacoat true to size? Did you get brown or black?

How does the leather feel? Is the coat "slim-fitting"? What kind of shape does it have, e.g. straight down, waist-suppressed, etc.?

Thanks.
post #40 of 45
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Sartorially Challenged
Was the leather peacoat true to size? Did you get brown or black?

How does the leather feel? Is the coat "slim-fitting"? What kind of shape does it have, e.g. straight down, waist-suppressed, etc.?

Thanks.

Pretty true to size. The 40 was too small and sleeves too short. Also I tried it on with a T shirt and felt okay with it. Which means with a sweater it should be trim.
I got BROWN. My preference over black.
The leather is very rugged, durable yet of a very high grade, in fact, it looks much better in the real world versus the picks. Somwhat straight a slight waist suppresion.

Actually the 44 didn't fit me poorly as I'm pretty muscular in a lean way, but I went with a 42 for a more stremlined fit which is my preference. The leather outdoes the traditional wool, I was amazed at how much better it looked.
post #41 of 45
What's your normal suit size, 44?

Thank you for the detailed response.
post #42 of 45
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sartorially Challenged
What's your normal suit size, 44?

Thank you for the detailed response.

I usually wear a 42 R in suits
In motorcycle jackets I wear a Medium consistently
But I'm a solid 42 R.

I tried it on again, after your questions, and have determine that the shoulders/length and sleeves are dead on.
I don't see peacoats in genernal as having a waist suppression.
The Schott's and the authentic have virtually the same fit. They do have high armholes both but neither has a major waist suppression.
I'm not sure how that would look on a coat such as this with an 8 button front.....Would be interesting to see.
If you want major waist suppression on a pea coat I would go bespoke but it'll cost you an arm and a leg.

However the fit is slim and in the classic model of the traditional Navy peacoat. They are very similar in look/fit with Schott having better materials /comfort / feel imo. I really like the Dark Brown leather over the black. The forum has reallly changed me into appreciating browns of blacks even with coats.

With your hands in the pockets, it look really great. Here is what the Schott looks like on from what matches the way mine fits to an online photo of a Schott.
This is what you get in look/style/silhouette although the colors in this photo are horrid and inaccurate of true schott

I'd go with the classic styling as it will never go out of style.
post #43 of 45
I'm looking at the american-armynavy site and thinking about ordering a pea coat for the winter. I really did not know that they were as warm as you say they are, but I'm guessing that if it's enough for a canadian winter it will also work for a swedish winter.

I'm guessing that the "32 oz. Quilted Lined
Navy Pea Coat" is warmer than the "22 oz. Satin Lined
Navy Pea Coat". 32 oz./22 oz. is refering to the weight, right?
post #44 of 45
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Originally Posted by Swededude
I'm looking at the american-armynavy site and thinking about ordering a pea coat for the winter. I really did not know that they were as warm as you say they are, but I'm guessing that if it's enough for a canadian winter it will also work for a swedish winter.

I'm guessing that the "32 oz. Quilted Lined
Navy Pea Coat" is warmer than the "22 oz. Satin Lined
Navy Pea Coat". 32 oz./22 oz. is refering to the weight, right?

I'd also like to know if anybody knows; I'm 73 inches long (don't know how to translate the metric scale to normal height numbers), should I go with a regular or a long one?
post #45 of 45
I'd say a regular unless you want it a bit long. You could go either, but the regular will look better IMO.
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