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post #91 of 102
10/13/10 at 7:26pm
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Originally Posted by CouttsClient View Post
Seriously...even a full bottle is normal for me. I typically plan for 1.5 bottles per person when inviting people over

dont worry, I do the same, and so do several of my friends..
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post #92 of 102
10/13/10 at 7:28pm
It's easier just keeping cases of wine or champagne around.
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post #93 of 102
10/13/10 at 10:26pm
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Originally Posted by bleachboy View Post
Correct. My dad drank lots of scotch and sodas every day when he got home from work for I don't know how many decades. But I never saw him get drunk, and he would stop before dinner.

When I was drinking, I would wake up and start drinking, not stop until I passed out, then wake up and start drinking again. I was going through several quarts of vodka every day.

Once an alcoholic takes the first drink, he is not going to stop drinking.

You have made the real distinction. In my mind it is not someone who has two or three drinks after work, even if it is a habit of doing it nearly every day. the alcoholic is the person who MUST have a drink or two before noon, more a few hours later, and gets totally soused in the evening if they last that long.

Having those two or three drinks a day after work may or may not be very healthy. The jury seems to be still out on that. but i have worked with some alcoholics in some construction trades and they had the full juuice on by noon. Hard to drive a nail in that condition.

Anyone watching Mad Men can see the heavy drinking practices that were halfway typical in the 60's. Lots of the prominent businessmen were at the club for lunch with a drink or two.
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post #94 of 102
10/13/10 at 10:41pm
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Originally Posted by vettloffah View Post
My friend called me today asking advice on whether or not he should seek AA. What is the definition of an alcoholic?

User defined qualifies, but not all admit they have a substance abuse problem. Can't hurt for him to go.
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post #95 of 102
10/14/10 at 12:46am
I've had 2 beers every night nice Sunday with dinner. I have functioned in the morning. Am I a functioning alcoholic?
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post #96 of 102
10/14/10 at 5:04am
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Originally Posted by ramuman View Post
I've had 2 beers every night nice Sunday with dinner. I have functioned in the morning. Am I a functioning alcoholic?

Hardly.
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post #97 of 102
10/14/10 at 5:20am
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
Wonder if we could get some sort of SFxAA collaboration going on a limited bottling of some sort of bourbon.

I would absolutely be in
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post #98 of 102
10/14/10 at 7:16am
When you start losing things: jobs, family, self-respect, friends,.....
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post #99 of 102
10/14/10 at 9:27am
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Originally Posted by Thomas View Post
I can't speak for everyone, but my upbringing had a sort of 'check-the-box' set of food-type requirements (No Meat on Lenten Fridays) that got watered down repeatedly, which gave me the feeling that the main focus of morality was tied to character / actions, since that's what the church focused on - provided we accept the church as the moral authority (which I think is common among Catholics in particular).

I'll touch on the quick parts of this but it is up to individual dioceses to set the practices for their faithful. Many of which ceased promoting the abstinence on all Fridays even though all recommend the practice. The sacrifice as an act itself, meaningless. Same goes with the Lenten sacrifice. The point of not eating meat is to have a period where we do sacrifice and realize what that entails.

There is more to say about the rest of your points but that is not the point of this threak. I also wanted to poast so I could have this appear in my search for threads i posted in.

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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
Neither cancer nor HIV are diseases... Alcoholism is oft regarded as a 'disease'.

Dude...you've failed harder in this one poast than I could have ever collectively failed here. Well. Fucking. Done.
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post #100 of 102
10/14/10 at 9:46am
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Originally Posted by imageWIS View Post
Neither cancer nor HIV are diseases... Alcoholism is oft regarded as a 'disease'.

Please, by all means, do tell us how you have more credibility on pathology and medicine than the Mayo Clinic.

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From the Hack Staff of the Mayo Clinic:

Cancer refers to any one of a large number of diseases characterized by the development of abnormal cells that divide uncontrollably and have the ability to infiltrate and destroy normal body tissue. Cancer also has the ability to spread throughout your body.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/cancer/DS01076

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Again, more from those clowns at that joke of an institute:

HIV is a sexually transmitted disease.
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post #101 of 102
10/14/10 at 10:33am
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Originally Posted by edinatlanta View Post
I'll touch on the quick parts of this but it is up to individual dioceses to set the practices for their faithful. Many of which ceased promoting the abstinence on all Fridays even though all recommend the practice. The sacrifice as an act itself, meaningless. Same goes with the Lenten sacrifice. The point of not eating meat is to have a period where we do sacrifice and realize what that entails.

There is more to say about the rest of your points but that is not the point of this threak. I also wanted to poast so I could have this appear in my search for threads i posted in.

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Well, this tangent came up because of the new health = morality that Manton brought up a few pages back, which I thought was interesting.
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post #102 of 102
10/14/10 at 2:24pm
By 2015, "Are you and alcoholic?" tests will probably say a guy who has a drink after work every Friday is a belligerent drunk and needs counseling.
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