George Cleverley Anthony Cleverley Models - Page 4
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P.S. According to the Alfred Sargent blog, they are introducing a AS 1899 range. I don't have any experience with AS, but I'm assuming this range was developed to rival those mentioned?
The 1899 range will be new styles but not up against the AC, Deco etc.
two things are for sure
1- SAs of companies that sell shoes under their own brand name routinely lie about who produces those shoes, claiming that they produce the shoes themselves when they have no factory infrastructure to do so . I would not be at all surprised if that attitude was adopted at higher levels of representation in those companies
2- I have personally seen shoe boxes marked "for G&G" in the EG factory about one year ago
Edited by dinowhite - 11/20/12 at 5:15pm
Let's go through the logic chain again.
Cleverley says that the AC line is bespoke construction (i.e., handmade by English standards) on standard lasts. Several of their competitors have been telling customers that in fact the shoes are factory made at EG. This could be just a classic case of the competition pissing on the competition. Or it could be true. Nobody on SF really knows but a controversy was brewing in any case.
I suggestsed (without knowing) that perhaps both are true. Maybe EG clicks and closes and Cleverley "makes." By "make" in this sense I meant the narrow, shoemaking definition: putting on the welt and the soles. Most non-geeks hear the word "make" and they think of the entire process of taking raw materials and producing a finished product. But in shoemaking, "making" is a specific task, and only part of the process. To "make" the shoe is to take an upper that is all stitched together already and puts on the welt and sole. The same person can do all these tasks but in most cases today they don't. Certainly, at Cleverley different people click and other people make.
It's just speculation.
Anyway, if it's true that the entire shoe is produced at EG, it suggests that Cleverley is being dishonest or at least misleading about the range. That is, unless they have someone there doing the welts and soles by hand. But bengal says they don't.
I recently emailed Cleverley and they confirmed that the AC line is hand lasted and hand welted.
So could it be the case that the AC shoes are indeed lasted and welted by hand at Cleverley (or whoever they outsourced to) and then the soles are machine stitched to the welt, possibly by EG, which explains why some of their competitors have been telling customers that the shoes are factory made at EG?
WSW, they are beautiful. But why aren't they in their lasted shoe trees?