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post #46 of 92
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GC AC The Chow: http://www.leathersoulhawaii.com/201...chow-lsw-lsbh/
post #47 of 92
I handled the Chow personally at LS BH shop.

Excellent shape and nice burgundy leather. Nothing boring about it

Overall, it was by far, the nicest non-bespoke plain monk that I have ever seen.
post #48 of 92
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Originally Posted by Michael Ay329 View Post
I handled the Chow personally at LS BH shop.......Nothing boring about it

If you wear the pair, you can take your Chow Chow for a walk. - Are they named after the restaurateur (Michael) 'Mr Chow'?
post #49 of 92
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If you wear the pair, you can take your Chow Chow for a walk. - Are they named after the restaurateur (Michael) 'Mr Chow'?

Yup, named after Mr. Chow.
post #50 of 92
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With the G&G Deco range coming out at the end of the month and the EG Cavendish ("Alpha") range emerging at the end of the year, is it fair to say the AC range no longer holds the title to the top RTW English shoe? Yes, I know this is subjective. Just wanted to hear what everyone thinks. P.S. According to the Alfred Sargent blog, they are introducing a AS 1899 range. I don't have any experience with AS, but I'm assuming this range was developed to rival those mentioned?
post #51 of 92
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In other words, should I hold out until the end of the month or year? I'm liking the Chow in burgundy a lot but have no immediate need to wear them.
post #52 of 92
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Originally Posted by Maverick972 View Post

P.S. According to the Alfred Sargent blog, they are introducing a AS 1899 range. I don't have any experience with AS, but I'm assuming this range was developed to rival those mentioned?

The 1899 range will be new styles but not up against the AC, Deco etc.
post #53 of 92
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Edited by MaChemist - 11/20/12 at 2:09pm
post #54 of 92

interesting thread

 

two things are for sure

 

1- SAs of companies that sell shoes under their own brand name routinely lie about who produces those shoes, claiming that they produce the shoes themselves when they have no factory infrastructure to do so . I would not be at all surprised if that attitude was adopted at higher levels of representation in those companies

 

2- I have personally seen shoe boxes marked "for G&G" in the EG factory about one year ago


Edited by dinowhite - 11/20/12 at 5:15pm
post #55 of 92
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post

Let's go through the logic chain again.

Cleverley says that the AC line is bespoke construction (i.e., handmade by English standards) on standard lasts. Several of their competitors have been telling customers that in fact the shoes are factory made at EG. This could be just a classic case of the competition pissing on the competition. Or it could be true. Nobody on SF really knows but a controversy was brewing in any case.

I suggestsed (without knowing) that perhaps both are true. Maybe EG clicks and closes and Cleverley "makes." By "make" in this sense I meant the narrow, shoemaking definition: putting on the welt and the soles. Most non-geeks hear the word "make" and they think of the entire process of taking raw materials and producing a finished product. But in shoemaking, "making" is a specific task, and only part of the process. To "make" the shoe is to take an upper that is all stitched together already and puts on the welt and sole. The same person can do all these tasks but in most cases today they don't. Certainly, at Cleverley different people click and other people make.

It's just speculation.

Anyway, if it's true that the entire shoe is produced at EG, it suggests that Cleverley is being dishonest or at least misleading about the range. That is, unless they have someone there doing the welts and soles by hand. But bengal says they don't.

 

I recently emailed Cleverley and they confirmed that the AC line is hand lasted and hand welted.

 

So could it be the case that the AC shoes are indeed lasted and welted by hand at Cleverley (or whoever they outsourced to) and then the soles are machine stitched to the welt, possibly by EG, which explains why some of their competitors have been telling customers that the shoes are factory made at EG?

post #56 of 92
Last week, I purchased a pair of Anthony Cleverley - The Chow Burgundy Monkstraps. I personally do not have the expertise to tell whether they are hand made, but they sure are beautiful shoes:






post #57 of 92
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Originally Posted by WSW View Post

Last week, I purchased a pair of Anthony Cleverley - The Chow Burgundy Monkstraps. I personally do not have the expertise to tell whether they are hand made, but they sure are beautiful shoes:






 

WSW, they are beautiful.  But why aren't they in their lasted shoe trees?

post #58 of 92
I purchased these on sale, hence no original lasted shoe trees were included. The trees you see in the pictures are on the EG 202 last and actually fit the Chow quite well.
post #59 of 92
Those were such a good deal that the absence of shoe trees wouldn't bother me. It was probably a bit hit and miss in that respect for the last pairs.
post #60 of 92
Agreed, especially at more than half off. Couldn't say no!
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