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post #16 of 27
10/1/10 at 2:57pm
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Originally Posted by Artisan Fan View Post
Andre,

Have you heard the speakers in question? They are much better than MLs of old.

I have not heard the new speakers but I'm not sure listening under show conditions can be too discriminating. Anyway, given their past record, I clearly have very low expectations of both their capabilities and taste level.

--Andre
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post #17 of 27
10/1/10 at 3:00pm
Will check em out!
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post #18 of 27
10/1/10 at 4:03pm
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I have not heard the new speakers but I'm not sure listening under show conditions can be too discriminating. Anyway, given their past record, I clearly have very low expectations of both their capabilities and taste level.

--Andre

I don't think you should make sweeping statements until you have heard the speakers in question.
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post #19 of 27
10/1/10 at 4:11pm
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I don't think you should make sweeping statements until you have heard the speakers in question.

I would agree in general but they would not be on my list of speakers to audition nor was woofer integration their only major problem.

--Andre
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post #20 of 27
10/1/10 at 5:42pm
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Do you have any empirical evidence to back this up? I have conducted several tests myself and I know the difference in quality is striking.

Please provide in ppt format as well as credentials and first name of neighbor or professional recording engineer you assisted.

--Andre
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post #21 of 27
10/1/10 at 7:46pm
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i believe washing his car counts
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post #22 of 27
10/2/10 at 8:39am
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i believe washing his car counts

This is such a typical SF reaction. I have a lot of value and information I can bring to the site but instead people decide to attack me. Do you have any empirical evidence that Martin Logan aren't good? A friend of mine who works for the company told me their anti-reverberation coils contained in their wires are the industry leaders creating an optimal audio environment and I believe him judging from my tests.
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post #23 of 27
10/2/10 at 2:10pm
^ T4, dude, he totally you there. AF for the win!

--Andre
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post #24 of 27
10/2/10 at 7:26pm
Someone working at the company told you they were the best? Did you even read that before you submitted your post?
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post #25 of 27
10/4/10 at 8:51am
Reviews are that they're still directional as hell. Sound fantastic for a single spot in your listening room, but you had better hope you're not trying to entertain a crowd.
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post #26 of 27
10/4/10 at 3:58pm
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Reviews are that they're still directional as hell. Sound fantastic for a single spot in your listening room, but you had better hope you're not trying to entertain a crowd.

That's actually a more insidious problem than it appears, and is a problem with almost all panel speakers in general. It's not only the limited dispersion that screws them, but also the fact that the dispersion varies wildly with frequency: it will have more or less directionality at different frequencies, which is another effect of the physical reason why panels are directional.

Since a speaker's off-axis response (its dispersion or directionality) will affect the perception of its sound in a major way --- lots of good studies (Speaker M in that study is M-L, BTW) have been done showing that to be the case --- this is a big reason why most panel speakers don't sound very good.

--Andre
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post #27 of 27
10/5/10 at 4:36am
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^ T4, dude, he totally you there. AF for the win!

--Andre

oh hell yeah!
af's 2nd hand experience and faith trumps all
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