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post #31 of 103
I find that the during the first 20 minutes it's really easy to cum but after that you become a little less sensitive and lets you last longer. I'd say to just pace yourself and don't tire yourself out or you'll never cum. Unless your girl is good at cowgirl style. She's a keeper.
post #32 of 103
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Originally Posted by mrpologuy
Are you having sex with the same person or random people? If it is random people, it might not matter much how fast you are.
well thats another long story... but basically i would still have sex with my ex girlfriend... till i found out that she had a Boyfriend. i thought it was pretty dirt bag that she would still let me hit it even tho she was going out with someone so i cut that off... but since then ive developed a network shall we say, of 3 girls who sporadically let me hit it. Its not so much for them its more for me… it does suck finishing so fast. But I don’t think I’m going to go to the doctor over this yet… considering I’m only 18… when I get into a serious relationship or married I’ll deff go to the doctor if the problem persists. thanks alot for the great responces!
post #33 of 103
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Originally Posted by otterhound
Another nominee for the Darwin awards.

Indeed.

Jon.
post #34 of 103
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Originally Posted by mattjames
I can last for ages, always have. Even on my first time aged 14 I took ages to finish. When I was on SSRIs I would often not come at all. They make many men unable to even get aroused to begin with.
Thicker condoms make things all numb and vague, so they might be a good idea.

maybe you don't like girls.
post #35 of 103
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Originally Posted by Soph
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Its very dose related like any drug. You lower your dose, cut the pill in half. And please cite the study, the protocols, the patient type etc. so I can evaluate your citation of 30-40% etc. I would need multiple studies with dosage adjustments which you can't cite with that failure rate.


I'm not sure these drugs are meant for extending ejaculation are they? They are meant for anxiety, depression, and can help with sexual compulsiveness because of the side effects of the drugs. Of course, anxiety could be a cause of premature ejaculation, and I'm being general, but the sexual side affects are side affects from the meds. I've never heard of them being prescribed for premature ejaculation unless the cause is secondary to anxiety.
post #36 of 103
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Originally Posted by edmorel
maybe you don't like girls.

That's a possibility. Have you tired to have sex with guys to see if you cum?

Jon.
post #37 of 103
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Originally Posted by Soph
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I'll disagree that he won't be able to finish. You're correlating your own experience and trying to say / extropolate to all males. Sorry, that's poor man's logic/science.

Its common sense that there is not a panacea for everyone. No offense.

Its very dose related like any drug. You lower your dose, cut the pill in half. And please cite the study, the protocols, the patient type etc. so I can evaluate your citation of 30-40% etc. I would need multiple studies with dosage adjustments which you can't cite with that failure rate.

10 minutes is longer than the average.

1. I think a man should usually satisfy the woman first due to a few reasons, female sexual cycle, length of time to climax, her reception to intercourse goes much higher post climax usually, men's lack of drive after climax for foreplay etc. etc. USUALLY.
2. You should lower your dose
3. Any of the ED drugs could also be of benefit, there is some data to support this.

Please don't lecture me about poor man's science when you obviously haven't done the research yourself. Initial estimates were that a relatively small number of patients (i think it was around 15%) would be affected by the sexual side-effects of SSRIs. Once they got out on to the market, psychiatrists realized that the number of people affected was a lot higher than originally estimated. Here's an excerpt from the abstract of a study that was published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry.

"With regard to SSRIs, sexual dysfunction occurs in 50% or more of such patients, which is substantially higher than the rates reported in the Physicians' Desk Reference. The reason for this discrepancy is that patients will not spontaneously report sexual problems and must be questioned about such problems directly"

Hirschfeld, RM. Management of sexual side effects of antidepressant therapy. Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1999;60(Suppl 14):27-30


SSRIs work very well for treating depression and my understanding is that most patients eventually find ways to deal with the effects, either by switching to a different SSRI, supplementing with various other drugs, decreasing dosage, etc. Some switch off them completely to something like Wellbutrin XR which is generally accepted to be less effective for treating depression but with less side effects. There's obviously no one solution for everybody because it's a complex problem.

As for dosages, I think that should be left to doctors, but you're right, often times docs start off with too high of a dosage because the pharmaceutical companies have a habit of suggesting starting doses which are too high.

Btw, if you agree that 10 minutes is longer than average, then why on earth would you suggest he take an SSRI?
post #38 of 103
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Originally Posted by veggieman
well thats another long story... but basically i would still have sex with my ex girlfriend... till i found out that she had a Boyfriend. i thought it was pretty dirt bag that she would still let me hit it even tho she was going out with someone so i cut that off...

but since then ive developed a network shall we say, of 3 girls who sporadically let me hit it.

Its not so much for them its more for me… it does suck finishing so fast. But I don’t think I’m going to go to the doctor over this yet… considering I’m only 18… when I get into a serious relationship or married I’ll deff go to the doctor if the problem persists.

thanks alot for the great responces!

Dude, it's really not a problem and there's no reason to see a doctor. 10 minutes is plenty long for 18. As you have more sex and get older, you'll last longer. Men like to brag about their sexual prowess but I have a lot of female friends that are completely unsatisfied because their boyfriends don't last long enough and it's a touchy subject to bring up. I'm sure their boyfriends all go around saying how much of a stud they are and how much their gf enjoys being pounded by them. It's a lie :P I don't know who you're measuring yourself against but I'd be a little bit sceptical if I were you.

If these are casual hook-ups and the girls are sleeping with other guys, which is likely from the way you describe your situation, I'd advise against going down on them. The last thing you want is herpes or HPV. It's easy miss the symptons and get it anyway. Use fingers instead. Going down on random chicks is really asking for trouble.
post #39 of 103
I wish I had this problem and I'm being completely serious. I take way, way too long, often to the point of exhaustion, and I think I know why: I think about it too much. I'm very methodical. I think if you're lost in your own head and take a lot of the primality out of it you'll last longer. Might not be as fun, but it works for me (unfortunately).
post #40 of 103
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Originally Posted by jonglover
I wish I had this problem and I'm being completely serious. I take way, way too long, often to the point of exhaustion, and I think I know why: I think about it too much. I'm very methodical. I think if you're lost in your own head and take a lot of the primality out of it you'll last longer. Might not be as fun, but it works for me (unfortunately).

I agree. I never understand these people that say they wanna have sex for hours at a time. If it's been 20 minutes (of actual intercourse) then it's time to finish. I'll generally get bored if it goes on much longer than that, which it has a couple of times. Besides, there's really no need to go longer if you build the girl up right in the first place.
post #41 of 103
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Originally Posted by vincent
Eat meat

WHAT?!?
post #42 of 103
Give yourself permission to cum whenever the hell you want. Why does it always have to be about impressing her and pleasing her? You'll find that it will free you to be more relaxed, and you might find that you have even more control than you thought.

Also, learn how to keep going after you cum. Anyone can learn this, just takes practice, practice, practice. And that is actually a porn secret by the way. A lot of those porn dudes have trained themselves to be able to cum at least twice per scene, but because of editing you don't always realize it.

A third technique is to spend 5 or 10 minutes visualizing yourself being able to last as long as you want. Visualization is very effective, but it must be practiced consistently.

Avoid drugs, avoid trips to the doc, there's nothing wrong with you bro. She's a hot piece of ass, they're supposed to make you want to cum.
post #43 of 103
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Originally Posted by GQgeek
Please don't lecture me about poor man's science when you obviously haven't done the research yourself. Initial estimates were that a relatively small number of patients (i think it was around 15%) would be affected by the sexual side-effects of SSRIs. Once they got out on to the market, psychiatrists realized that the number of people affected was a lot higher than originally estimated. Here's an excerpt from the abstract of a study that was published in the Journal of Clinical Psychiatry.

"With regard to SSRIs, sexual dysfunction occurs in 50% or more of such patients, which is substantially higher than the rates reported in the Physicians' Desk Reference. The reason for this discrepancy is that patients will not spontaneously report sexual problems and must be questioned about such problems directly"

Hirschfeld, RM. Management of sexual side effects of antidepressant therapy. Journal of Clinical Psychiatry 1999;60(Suppl 14):27-30


SSRIs work very well for treating depression and my understanding is that most patients eventually find ways to deal with the effects, either by switching to a different SSRI, supplementing with various other drugs, decreasing dosage, etc. Some switch off them completely to something like Wellbutrin XR which is generally accepted to be less effective for treating depression but with less side effects. There's obviously no one solution for everybody because it's a complex problem.

As for dosages, I think that should be left to doctors, but you're right, often times docs start off with too high of a dosage because the pharmaceutical companies have a habit of suggesting starting doses which are too high.

Btw, if you agree that 10 minutes is longer than average, then why on earth would you suggest he take an SSRI?

- 1. 1999. What doesages were used, ah, they were the dosages to treat depression etc. not to prolong ejac. This is only one author's conclusion. Where's the data? Even then you can debate the the dosages the patient type etc. And even with your supposed conclusion by one author, it still doesn't deny the fact the drug 'DIDN'T' cause problems for 1/2. So why not try it. But in this case he should have a sex cons.

You stated, "I've been on them before and after 30-40 minutes of supreme effort I still wouldn't be any closer. In fact, it's estimated that 30-50% of men taking it experience anorgasmia, ED, or both, which is definitely not a good thing. Some docs supplement with Wellbutrin, which helps in some cases, but there really isn't a solution that works for everyone."

You stated because you had a problem someone else will too and you grouped '"anorgasmia,ED or both with 30-50% of men". Even by your own one study, one author line quoatation, the drugs were not a problem in 1/2 men.

- 2. Levitra has data by itself for ejac. let alone it can be used multi modal with SSRI on lower dosages. Ah, then where is the side effect profile with this combination?

- 3. Just so you know, Urologists prescribe Zoloft for this all the time, everyday, even as we are on this message board. And it can and is dose related. Where's your data again for dosing adjustments?

- 4. What data do have to support "pharmaceutical companies habit of suggesting starting doses which are too high"?

---- Pharamceutical companies use what dosage achieves the best outcome with the best side effect profile and it is approved by the FDA. They do not try to use a higher dose out of habit etc. Please cite the study that support this comment. Good luck on that one.



Also, in this case, a psych consultation would be in order as he's clearly within the norm.
post #44 of 103
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Originally Posted by GQgeek
Dude, it's really not a problem and there's no reason to see a doctor. 10 minutes is plenty long for 18. As you have more sex and get older, you'll last longer. Men like to brag about their sexual prowess but I have a lot of female friends that are completely unsatisfied because their boyfriends don't last long enough and it's a touchy subject to bring up. I'm sure their boyfriends all go around saying how much of a stud they are and how much their gf enjoys being pounded by them. It's a lie :P I don't know who you're measuring yourself against but I'd be a little bit sceptical if I were you.

If these are casual hook-ups and the girls are sleeping with other guys, which is likely from the way you describe your situation, I'd advise against going down on them. The last thing you want is herpes or HPV. It's easy miss the symptons and get it anyway. Use fingers instead. Going down on random chicks is really asking for trouble.

There is a reason to see a sex therpaist at a teaching institution.

Merck/HPV and vaccine:

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-H...ne.htm#hpvvac1
I would strongly urge these 'women' you are with to look into this.
post #45 of 103
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Originally Posted by Tck13
I'm not sure these drugs are meant for extending ejaculation are they? They are meant for anxiety, depression, and can help with sexual compulsiveness because of the side effects of the drugs. Of course, anxiety could be a cause of premature ejaculation, and I'm being general, but the sexual side affects are side affects from the meds. I've never heard of them being prescribed for premature ejaculation unless the cause is secondary to anxiety.

--- You're Urologist has a load of PFE's Zoloft on his shelf right now and has for several years. Urologists don't USUALLY treat depression so I think you realize why PFE samples them and Urologists write prescriptions for Zoloft.

In another study presented at the AUA meeting, the erectile dysfunction drug Levitra appeared to help premature ejaculation.

Frank Sommer, MD, PhD, a urology specialist at the University Medical Centre in Cologne, Germany, reported a small study in which 37 men with premature ejaculation received either Levitra or the SSRI antidepressant Zoloft.

Both drugs improved premature ejaculation severity, although much stronger effects were seen for Levitra than for Zoloft. And Levitra also improved partner sexual satisfaction.

"There is a potential usefulness of [Levitra] as a promising line of therapy in premature ejaculation," Sommer and colleagues wrote in their presentation abstract.

Only one study, but this combination ideally will improve the sexual dysfunction side effect from zoloft(ssri's) if it does 'rear its head'
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