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post #16 of 162
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Originally Posted by Hey Man View Post
Translation - I prefer to be another American with their head in the sand.

You seriously have never heard or read of a distinction between murder and other forms of killing? Never?
post #17 of 162
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
You seriously have never heard or read of a distinction between murder and other forms of killing? Never?

But this is not the case with Pat Tillman - he was murdered by his own people. Have you watched any of the clips that I have provided. His was not friendly fire - he was murdered and the American goverment tried to cover it up. There was a cover up and this is known.

Here watch these and then get back to me.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvDEFNg91o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fm-_Nmmh88
post #18 of 162
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Originally Posted by Hey Man View Post
His was not friendly fire

I like how they specifically state he was killed by friendly fire about 12545637 times in these videos.

post #19 of 162
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
I like how they specifically state he was killed by friendly fire about 12545637 times in these videos.


They are referring to the term - not agreeing with it. They also use words like murder, lie and cover up - did you catch that?
post #20 of 162
I saw the documentary. It claims that Tillman was killed by FF and that there was a cover-up. It does not even try to establish that he was murdered.
post #21 of 162
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Originally Posted by Hey Man View Post
They are referring to the term - not agreeing with it. They also use words like murder, lie and cover up - did you catch that?
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First video 2:52 BM: There's a lot of things in here that may lead someone to believe he was deliberately attacked by his own troops (This would be the definition of MURDER, by the way) RT: I don't know. I'm not going to speak on that. The one thing that's definitely true is that there was a coverup.
This is not what you are saying. There are about 35464563473473 other instances of the videos not backing up your claims. 00:04 BM: Pat Tillman quit the NFL to fight in Afghanistan and his subsequent death there by friendly fire... 1:31 BM: ...and he was killed in Afghanistand by what turned out to be friendly fire 8:19 RT: If the military was to tell us that he was killed by simple friendly fire, we could handle it. It's the fact, they way they went about it, the way they treated us... that's what so offensive. (then they go on to talk about friendly fire stats) Blah blah blah
post #22 of 162
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I saw the documentary. It claims that Tillman was killed by FF and that there was a cover-up. It does not even try to establish that he was murdered.

Why would they need to cover up and lie about a friendly fire - it happens all the time. When one tries to cover up something and it all looks very suspect, it becomes a more serious crime.

Even his brother states in the Maher interview - that the circumstances with his brother were absolutely criminal and he is obviously leaning toward being murdered by the idiots he was working with - maybe you should actually watch the interview. But obviously this is more than just good ol' fashioned open and shut case of friendly fire like you are supporting.

Watch and the give your feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvDEFNg91o
post #23 of 162
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Originally Posted by Tokyo Slim View Post
This is not what you are saying.

There are about 35464563473473 other instances of the videos not backing up your claims.

Funny how people usually try to cover up and lie about murders. You don't think a case of friendly fire turns into a potential murder, when everyone is lying about it and trying to cover it up. If it was just friendly fire and nothing but - we wouldn't even be talking about this and the family wouldn't be fighting for the truth.
post #24 of 162
Friendly fire has been covered up for ever, by all countries, it's bad for morale.
post #25 of 162
Friendly fire is one of the major ways in which American combat troops end up getting killed. Its a combination of being pretty good at avoiding being killed by the enemy, the extreme effectiveness of our weapons, and the general fog of war.

That Tillman was killed by friendly fire is tragic. That because of his PR value and whatever other missguided motivations drove his superior officers to cover this up it becomes doubly tragic. Insisting that friendly fire is MURDER! isnt tragic as much as it is ridiculous.
post #26 of 162
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Why does anyone talk to Hey Man?
+1.
post #27 of 162
And YOU know this because?????

I'm sure you buy into every other conspiracy theory, too.
post #28 of 162
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Originally Posted by iammatt View Post
+1.

post #29 of 162
The same people who build Denver International Airport were responsible for Pat Tillman's death and coverup.

!!!
post #30 of 162
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Originally Posted by redcaimen View Post
Friendly fire is one of the major ways in which American combat troops end up getting killed. Its a combination of being pretty good at avoiding being killed by the enemy, the extreme effectiveness of our weapons, and the general fog of war.

That Tillman was killed by friendly fire is tragic. That because of his PR value and whatever other missguided motivations drove his superior officers to cover this up it becomes doubly tragic. Insisting that friendly fire is MURDER! isnt tragic as much as it is ridiculous.

OK let's start again - I didn't say friendly fire was murder. I said that in THIS ONE PARTICULAR CASE, it absolutely looks like he was deliberately killed by his own people, his family pretty much believe that and all the lying and cover up regarding Tillman doesn't help. Like I said before, we wouldn't even be talking about this and the Tillman family wouldn't have investigated the truth, if it was JUST friendly fire.
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