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post #121 of 162
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Yes, because the finer points of 15-6 investigations are instrumental parts of CoD gameplay...

Anyway, the fact that you can't tell us what happened the day Pat Tillman died tells me you don't know what your talking about. Even worse, you couldn't comprehend what you were talking about even if you had read the 15-6. Your opinion could best be described as "unqualified".

You are not saying anything that validates you being there. I think the word of the Tillman family is credible and more valid than anything you could possibly say.
post #122 of 162
The Patriots are going to DESTROY the Bills this weekend. MARK. MY. WORDS.
post #123 of 162
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You are not saying anything that validates you being there. I think the word of the Tillman family is credible and more valid than anything you could possibly say.

Then why are you the only one here completely ignoring what the Tillman family has actually said - which is that their son was killed by friendly fire. Repeatedly, over and over again they have said it. Plainly and point blank. You point to videos that prove my point, discredits yours and you insist that they are lying or that you know details that they didnt say and never even alluded to. You read things between lines that arent there and THEN you turn around and say they are the only ones you'll believe?

Maybe you should get your story straight.
post #124 of 162
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Then why are you the only one here completely ignoring what the Tillman family has actually said - which is that their son was killed by friendly fire. Repeatedly, over and over again they have said it. Plainly and point blank. You point to videos that prove my point, discredits yours and you insist that they are lying or that you know details that they didnt say and never even alluded to. You read things between lines that arent there and THEN you turn around and say they are the only ones you'll believe?

Maybe you should get your story straight.

And I keep telling you that his parents still think Pat being murdered is on the table for them and they will continue to pursue answers. No one in the Tillman family have said - thanks America for letting us know that it was friendly fire and now we have closure.

I also love how you to put a spin on Kevin Tillman saying that it wasn't an accident at all - which friendly fire is described as, an accident. Friendly fire is never described as something that wasn't an accident. Even if the guy who shot him was overzealous as Richard Tillman had suggested and fucked up, Pat should have blown that fucker away.
post #125 of 162
I work with Pat Tillman's cousin. He said during holidays, Pat and the brother in OP video would pitch him around the yard as if he was a football.
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And I keep telling you that his parents still think Pat being murdered is on the table for them and they will continue to pursue answers. No one in the Tillman family have said - thanks America for letting us know that it was friendly fire and now we have closure.
You keep FABRICATING them saying anything other than friendly fire. In the last video, it was 2006 and there WAS an ongoing investigation, which is why he's sitting in front of people speaking into a microphone. So, what happened, you might ask? The evidence and moment by moment replay of the details of the scene resulted in the judgment that it was... friendly fire. You notice that in EVERY instance after this 2006 statement, he clearly calls it "friendly fire".
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I also love how you to put a spin on Kevin Tillman saying that it wasn't an accident at all - which friendly fire is described as, an accident. Friendly fire is never described as something that wasn't an accident. Even if the guy who shot him was overzealous as Richard Tillman had suggested and fucked up, Pat should have blown that fucker away.
You are the only one spinning anything, and again - if you think he's saying that Pat Tillman was murdered - you are misquoting him. The scenario, as described is STILL not "murder". Are you trying to say, that even given the number of opportunities presented to everyone in the family to say that he was murdered, with all the evidence they have of what happened, with all the official reports and statements, that they wouldn't say he was murdered if they thought that he might have been? You are out of your mind if you think they are biting their tongue. This family, if anything, has proven their inability to do so. They know how Pat Tillman died. It wasn't murder. Stupidity, yes. Malicious intent? Highly unlikely. By all accounts he was rather well liked by the guys who shot him. His best friend and brother have spoken to that effect. There is no ongoing investigation into the cause of death of Pat Tillman. If you think there is, you are mistaken. I'd tell you to go watch the documentary, but knowing you - you'd just believe that it's about how he was murdered - and anything to the contrary is a lie or a smokescreen so that the Tillman's can play Nancy Drew. If they ARE personally "investigating" the men who killed Pat, they are doing a piss poor job of it. They know who they are. They've spoken to them. They've seen the official statements, testimonies, and eyewitness accounts from the other soldiers. They can't get a shred of evidence that he was murdered six plus years after the facts actually came out?
post #127 of 162
i don't know who Pat Tollman is, and I generally stay out of CE cos it's full of Americans arguing about American things and Americans are happiest when they're arguing...but there does seem to be an inordinate amount of pot banging going on here, should I squirrel it?
post #128 of 162
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i don't know who Pat Tollman is, and I generally stay out of CE cos it's full of Americans arguing about American things and Americans are happiest when they're arguing...but there does seem to be an inordinate amount of pot banging going on here, should I squirrel it?
I think if an IP thingy was done, you'd probably find Hey Man is a banned troll already, maybe more than once. If you see many/most of his comments, he's obviously trying to make things worse and doing most of it on purpose. The distinction between "murder" and friendly fire and everything else has been laid out very clearly, and he still keeps trying to raise tensions with intentional stupidity.
post #129 of 162
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I think if an IP thingy was done, you'd probably find Hey Man is a banned troll already, maybe more than once. If you see many/most of his comments, he's obviously trying to make things worse and doing most of it on purpose. The distinction between "murder" and friendly fire and everything else has been laid out very clearly, and he still keeps trying to raise tensions with intentional stupidity.

Do the IP thingy - you would be wrong.
post #130 of 162
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OK let's start again - I didn't say friendly fire was murder. I said that in THIS ONE PARTICULAR CASE, it absolutely looks like he was deliberately killed by his own people, his family pretty much believe that and all the lying and cover up regarding Tillman doesn't help. Like I said before, we wouldn't even be talking about this and the Tillman family wouldn't have investigated the truth, if it was JUST friendly fire.

Hey Man - Xiagou - the Chinese Obama - is right. Friendly fire happens. It's part of the military. It's called the Fog of WAr. This is a grieving family who is desperate for some type of answer(s). There are none and for that all of our prayers go out to them. Call it what you want - Blue on Blue, Green on Green, Friendly Fire, fratricide. I don't care. It happens. All the time. And yes, I have been in combat and hit by friendly fire, before you ask. All of you dickheads are missing the point. It's the cover up, with fuck face Mchrystal leading the charge (who retired in DISGRACE). Get your butts back to basics - tell the truth, own up right away when shit goes wrong, and move on. Cover ups don't work and that's the point of this whole tragedy. May you rest in peace Patrick Tilman - patriot, husband, and son.
post #131 of 162
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Why would they need to cover up and lie about a friendly fire - it happens all the time. When one tries to cover up something and it all looks very suspect, it becomes a more serious crime.

Even his brother states in the Maher interview - that the circumstances with his brother were absolutely criminal and he is obviously leaning toward being murdered by the idiots he was working with - maybe you should actually watch the interview. But obviously this is more than just good ol' fashioned open and shut case of friendly fire like you are supporting.

Watch and the give your feedback.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGvDEFNg91o

Pat Tillman's brother is also a moron, what's your point? If you watched the Maher clip and couldn't see what a whack job his brother is, I dunno what to tell you.
post #132 of 162
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Pat Tillman's brother is also a moron, what's your point? If you watched the Maher clip and couldn't see what a whack job his brother is, I dunno what to tell you.

Are you referring to the bad language? His whole family is know for using salty language - it was how they were brought up for better or worse. I don't think he is a whack job at all - he is the definitive guy you want to have a beer with. I am sure he did just that with Maher after the show.
post #133 of 162
Just read this entire thread. Seriously one of the funniest I've ever seen. Thanks to everyone involved, especially Hey Man, because without you none of this is possible.
post #134 of 162
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Just read this entire thread. Seriously one of the funniest I've ever seen. Thanks to everyone involved, especially Hey Man, because without you none of this is possible.

You are welcome.
post #135 of 162
Too bad Ben Tillman wasn't murdered by Americans...
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