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post #8716 of 27206
Fuckijg knicks
post #8717 of 27206
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

He'll get to start, play heavy and lead the team because of the lack of stars there. If somehow they swing Howard, I think that also helps him tremendously and I think Howard will play very well with him. Remember how Chandler played offensively during Linsanity and Chandler is not what anyone would call an offensive player.

I am not 100% sure but Lin going to Houston pretty much screws up the Howard deal, no? I mean they amnestied Scola to free up space and now they have Lin not being matched by NY and Asik that might not be matched by Chicago, both offered with big contracts. They may just have screwed up a possible Howard deal by those two teams not matching their offers.
post #8718 of 27206
Rockets still have enough cap space and assets/picks to make the deal happen even if Lin/Asik signs
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Originally Posted by Harbin View Post

Rockets still have enough cap space and assets/picks to make the deal happen even if Lin/Asik signs

Money nor picks are an issue with Houston, its just that Orlando wants everything and the kitchen sink for Howard, they seem to think that there is always a better deal just around the corner. Houston doesn't even care that Howard said he would not resign with them.
post #8720 of 27206
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Stephen A. Smith is definitely one of the dumbest analyst out there.
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Jeremy Lin has been all about the money since the day he burst onto Broadway.

Lin was about the Benjamins when Linsanity made the cover of Time magazine. He definitely was overcome by dollar signs when he wouldn't play at "85 percent" for the New York Knicks in the playoffs, and it was all about the bottom line once free agency arrived.

Jeremy Lin won't need to sleep on anyone's couch in Houston.

So now that Lin has confirmed the obvious, signing an offer sheet from the Houston Rockets that would dole out a balloon payment of $14.8 million in the third year of a reported deal worth approximately $25 million, it's time for the Knicks to mirror Lin's behavior.


So is he expecting Lin to say "fuck that shit, I am not signing that Rockets offer sheet because I am not good enough!". A guy who was floating on the D-League and can barely crack a spot on the team a year ago, he expects him to not sign that offer sheet?
post #8721 of 27206

Houston has $29 mil in salary for next year as of now. Add an extra $10 mil for Asik and Lin and that puts them at $39. Subtract $13 mil for Kevin Martin because he is almost guaranteed to be traded in a Howard deal since he is an expiring contract and that puts them at $26 mil.

 

That puts them around $30 mil under the cap (plus more because they will surely trade more than just KMart,) which gives them room to take on Howard and at least two other bad long term contracts of Orlando's like JRich and Big Baby.

 

So all-in-all, the Asik/Lin stuff doesn't hurt them.

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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

Stephen A. Smith is definitely one of the dumbest analyst out there.

So is he expecting Lin to say "fuck that shit, I am not signing that Rockets offer sheet because I am not good enough!". A guy who was floating on the D-League and can barely crack a spot on the team a year ago, he expects him to not sign that offer sheet?

its subtle racism... because Lin and the Rockets did such a sneaky asian move and put the almost 15million 3rd year change into the offer sheet. teacha.gif

I'm only kind of kidding about he subtle racism part... mwink[1].gif because any fool would see how you can make money to cover luxury tax expenses specifically for lin through Chinese/asian/international Advertising fees in stadium during those international broadcasts.

every watch a Seattle Mariners game? The stadium has tons of ajinomoto ads on the backstop. that should cover like a 4th of iciro's salary alone.

The sad part is that Smith actually used to write some pretty good articles around two years back (when his on air persona was dismissed and he was off the air for good year and was forced to write for his local Philadelphia newspaper's website - those were the good days ....)
post #8723 of 27206
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

Money nor picks are an issue with Houston, its just that Orlando wants everything and the kitchen sink for Howard, they seem to think that there is always a better deal just around the corner. Houston doesn't even care that Howard said he would not resign with them.

exactly, so what's hennigan trying to do lol.... you can't scare the wizard morey
post #8724 of 27206
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Originally Posted by moffy View Post

Houston has $29 mil in salary for next year as of now. Add an extra $10 mil for Asik and Lin and that puts them at $39. Subtract $13 mil for Kevin Martin because he is almost guaranteed to be traded in a Howard deal since he is an expiring contract and that puts them at $26 mil.

That puts them around $30 mil under the cap (plus more because they will surely trade more than just KMart,) which gives them room to take on Howard and at least two other bad long term contracts of Orlando's like JRich and Big Baby.

So all-in-all, the Asik/Lin stuff doesn't hurt them.

Magic wants to get rid of Hedo ($11.4mil), QRich($2.6mil) & Duhon($3.7mil) contracts too (total: ~$18mil).
post #8725 of 27206
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Originally Posted by LawrenceMD View Post

its subtle racism... because Lin and the Rockets did such a sneaky asian move and put the almost 15million 3rd year change into the offer sheet. teacha.gif
I'm only kind of kidding about he subtle racism part... mwink[1].gif

funny you mention that because the NY papers are taking a similar tactic of depicting Lin as greedy, shifty, backstabbing etc. You can make a strong argument that Lin is an unproven commodity, that he could be injury prone, still lacks a lot of polish on the court and is a defensive liability etc etc and hence is not worth an average of $8mil over the next 3 years but they seem to be taking the road of tarnishing his persona. I am no Al Sharpton but I honestly believe that the thought of a good Asian guard (and harvard grad no less) is still foreign enough to these guys that they refuse to believe it or look at it like Mayweather did ('black players do what Lin does all the time and no one says anything").

Lin was all about the money when he was on the Time cover confused.gif How can you write that with a straight face?
post #8726 of 27206
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

I actually hope NY does not match and Lin goes to Houston, I think that will be the best thing that can happen to him as a basketball player. He'll get to start, play heavy and lead the team because of the lack of stars there. If somehow they swing Howard, I think that also helps him tremendously and I think Howard will play very well with him. Remember how Chandler played offensively during Linsanity and Chandler is not what anyone would call an offensive player...

Lin really can't lose. Both Houston and NYC have huge Asian populations, so he'll have a large fan base and great marketing opportunities. From a basketball perspective, he'll probably get more playing time in Houston, but his teammates won't do much, unless the Rockets can land Howard. But Howard on the receiving end of his lob passes would look a lot better than Chandler ever did. They (Howard and Chandler) have similar skill sets, but Howard is younger and much, much better.

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...Regardless of whether the Knicks got Nash, Lin or CP3 next year, the team will live and die with Melo for the next three years. If he wants to be a 20+ point scorer, be the guy who takes the most and the last shots of the game, not play defense and not average at least 5 assists a game, they will be mediocre. He'll win big games for them, he'll lose big games. He has the skills to average a double/double and has the teammates where he should be averaging half a dozen assists. The knicks should have the best frontcourt in the east, if not the league but they have one guy who is a ball hog and the other two require a PG that can pick/roll and drive in order for them to score (knicks seem to love power forwards that can't play with their back to the basket). There has to be sacrifice from Melo in order for those three guys to succeed together. Melo can play the 3 or 4 and make Chandler and Amare into better offensive threats. Or he can drive to the rim 12x a game with his spin move trying to score on a double team and a rotating big.

I agree with you, but what are the chances? Melo always has to be the star, forget about winning. Until Melo figures out that nobody wins if the team doesn't win, I truly feel sorry for Melo's teammates.
post #8727 of 27206
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Originally Posted by edmorel View Post

funny you mention that because the NY papers are taking a similar tactic of depicting Lin as greedy, shifty, backstabbing etc. You can make a strong argument that Lin is an unproven commodity, that he could be injury prone, still lacks a lot of polish on the court and is a defensive liability etc etc and hence is not worth an average of $8mil over the next 3 years but they seem to be taking the road of tarnishing his persona. I am no Al Sharpton but I honestly believe that the thought of a good Asian guard (and harvard grad no less) is still foreign enough to these guys that they refuse to believe it or look at it like Mayweather did ('black players do what Lin does all the time and no one says anything").
Lin was all about the money when he was on the Time cover confused.gif How can you write that with a straight face?

azns are the silent race.... so there will be no race baiting (nore is there any super prominent AZN sports writer equivalent to Stephen A Smith to actually try it). musicboohoo[1].gif

seriously though all you need to do is have someone prominent read into the articles you mentioned and insinuate racism and everyone will shut the fuck up and back off. the knikcs sources leaked that they'd pay "a billion dollars to keep lin".... apparently they showed their hand and will have to pay. The sad part is that they'll make they luxury tax hit back easily with Lin.

lol.. but its true... the way I'm reading into it... Melo is pissed about not being the focal point (not really raced based but just and egotistical move in his part) about the knicks. He shouldn't talk out of turn about any part of that contract being "ridiculous", because you can argue it can be paid for through outside advertising income - but its the Melo/STAT contracts that are the true lead boots that'll sink the knicks in 2014.

Lin brings in money no matter what. Melo isn't even really respected by the majority of his home fans.
post #8728 of 27206
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I don't really wish injury on people but the Melo injury last year was the best thing to happen to the Knicks in the longest time. I still believe w/o Lin last year, the Knicks wouldn't have made a playoff appearance.
post #8729 of 27206
ESPN nba needs to fire Stevo and hire away Adam Schefter from NFL. Adam may not know as much off the bat, but firing Stevo would be an improvement in of itself
post #8730 of 27206
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

I don't really wish injury on people but the Melo injury last year was the best thing to happen to the Knicks in the longest time. I still believe w/o Lin last year, the Knicks wouldn't have made a playoff appearance.

I know I am on the Lin bandwagon and as I said, he wasn;t going to come in and lift them to a chip or anything (nor do I think any other PG can do that with this team), the team revolves around what type of player Melo wants to be. That being said, not sure of how many of you guys are from NYC but when Linsanity was happening, it was not simply a basketball event. Housewives at Costco were talking about him. People who had not watched a Knicks game in years were rushing out to buy his jersey for the whole family. Tickets became very hard (and expensive) to get, the garden was packed every night to see the Knicks play shit teams, MSG stock shot up. The nationally televised Lakers game, whether you think Lin is real or not, was just magical. The buzz before and after that game was crazy. That doesn't make him a great basketball player nor does it negate all the risks of signing him but this talk that the money and luxury tax are too much for the Knicks to take on is so silly.
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