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post #8581 of 27250
Thunders are definitely staying together? I don't see how they can offer four players max contracts. Prolly both harden and ibaka have to take less money
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Brooklyn will be the in the conference finals with that lineup.

Look who can see in the future now. lol8[1].gif

A team of DWill, Johnson, Crash and Dwight is an All-Star line-up for sure but w/o legit bench players, not sure how they'd fair against the Bulls (w/ a healthy Rose) or the Heat (who just got Allen and may get Camby next).
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Kris Humphries is reportedly holding up the deal because he wants a multi-year contract. I think Orlando is working on the "bigger fool" theory. There is a GM somewhere who is foolish enough to take several late 1st-round draft picks in exchange for a lottery pick. Orlando thinks they can eventually get enough star players to win again, but the NBA is a game of superstars. One or two superstars are generally needed to contend for the championship, so IMO it's generally best to package multiple players or draft picks for one, better player. Wash, rinse, repeat and end up with a team like the Lakers, centered around Kobe, Pau, and Bynum. As we've seen, one big superstar can also draw other marquis players, so acquiring (super)stars is the name of the game. Brook Lopez does have the potential to develop into a fine center, perhaps one of the 3-4 best centers in the league, but he'll never scare anyone.

So giving up their only superstar, and only chance of winning ANYTHING, for a bunch of random end of round draft pics and a middling center with potential to be worse than the guy they're giving away, seems like a good deal to you?
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Look who can see in the future now. lol8[1].gif
A team of DWill, Johnson, Crash and Dwight is an All-Star line-up for sure but w/o legit bench players, not sure how they'd fair against the Bulls (w/ a healthy Rose) or the Heat (who just got Allen and may get Camby next).

Camby going to knicks
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Camby going to knicks

Was it confirmed? Last I read (a few days ago?) that the Heat was still in contention to get him but the team wanted someone from the Knicks instead but nothing was set in stone back then.
post #8586 of 27250
Nets would potentially have four all star-ish players. I'm sure they can get some veterans to sign on and they could choose some rookies carefully.

Even if they kept brook Lopez and Humphries that's still an excellent team
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So giving up their only superstar, and only chance of winning ANYTHING, for a bunch of random end of round draft pics and a middling center with potential to be worse than the guy they're giving away, seems like a good deal to you?

They have no other real option. Bynum won't resign with Orlando.

6 first round draft picks are amazing trade bait. LA was going to give up Pau for a top 5 pick this year. There were no takers.
Orlando will be able to get some real talent in trades.

Orlando isn't Milwaukee or Golden State. People will join Orlando for max contracts. T Mac, Grant Hill,...
post #8588 of 27250
Will the Magic owners make money off this? They will save money on salaries for the next half dozen years(Cheap rookie contracts).
However, they will lose a lot of fans who don't want to watch a team rebuild.
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So giving up their only superstar, and only chance of winning ANYTHING, for a bunch of random end of round draft pics and a middling center with potential to be worse than the guy they're giving away, seems like a good deal to you?

No, you misunderstood my writing. They are being foolish and/or forced to make the best of a bad situation. Their best options are (1) keeping Dwight Howard, or (2) trading him for a player with remotely comparable skills. Since it looks like option 1 is impossible and I think Bynum is the best available big man, I would try to convince Bynum to accept a long-term deal and then trade with LA. Failing that, the trade for Lopez plus spare parts may be the best they can do, but it still sucks. Non-lottery draft picks are very hard to turn into productive players (unless you have a great organization like San Antonio) and even lottery picks are no sure thing. Nonetheless, if a trade with Brooklyn is the best Orlando can do, they should turn those non-lottery draft choices into lottery picks ASAP. It sucks to be Orlando right now, though.
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I feel like the rockets have such a better package to offer for dwight than that 4 way trade... a bunch of picks and some solid players like kmart/scola, ppat, etc
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So giving up their only superstar, and only chance of winning ANYTHING, for a bunch of random end of round draft pics and a middling center with potential to be worse than the guy they're giving away, seems like a good deal to you?

It beats being "Torontoed", amirite? confused0024.gif
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Why they gave away both Kyle and dragic is just utterly beyond me
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Why they gave away both Kyle and dragic is just utterly beyond me

Trying to get Lin? Plus I think both were asking for too much while they are a bit optimistic that they'll get someone big. They're really working hard to get Dwight.


Speaking of Dwight, the Cavs backed out of helping the Nets land Dwight so that deal is out at the moment. Looks like the Lakers are back at the hunt, only if Bynum would commit to the Magic already. I mean he wants to be the #1 star in his own team and this is his best chance.


Also, Blake Griffin just OKed a 5-year, $95m extension.

And Rashard Lewis headed to Miami. He may not be worth his salary but he is a decent bench player for the Heat. Champs still getting better.
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Why they gave away both Kyle and dragic is just utterly beyond me
yeah, both of them played excellent ball last season. Lowry in particular played perfect PG ball for long stretches. unless doctors secretly told the Rockets his leg was rotting off or something, I would take him any day of the week over Lin
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yeah, both of them played excellent ball last season. Lowry in particular played perfect PG ball for long stretches. unless doctors secretly told the Rockets his leg was rotting off or something, I would take him any day of the week over Lin

Unprotected lotto pick from raptors is hard to come by, and Rockets are looking to rebuild. The way I look at it is, there is no point in keeping Lowry/Dragic because yes they are GOOD but they arent the superstar the rockets need. It's either time to rebuild if you can't have a good enough team to win a championship. Having the 9 or 10th seed each year and missing the playoffs is the absolute worst position to be in, cuz you end up with like 13th pick every draft and you stay bad.

Anyways, Rockets in serious talk with magic and lakers for 3 way trade. Rockets will end up with either Dwight/Bynum by Thursday imo. They have everything that the magic would want...first round picks, expiring contracts, young players, and obviously you can throw in some vets like kmart/scola.
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